[kj] KJ in China?

[Jim Harper]

The pre-80s era was also characterized by massive human rights violations, insane and counterproductive business practices and corruption on a immense scale.
 
(To be fair, they've partially managed to sort out the business practices issue).

Oh, and let's not forget the Chinese government's fondness for lying through their teeth about their 'successes'.
 
Jim. 

--- On Tue, 20/7/10, GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com> wrote:




Examples of pre-1980s practices: eliminating many diseases and widespread opium addiction (and rehab and social integration of addicts, rather
than jail as in the US), and spreading literacy to most of the population (creating a phonetic alphabet helped).
Some interesting books by Westerners who lived in China during the sort-of communist period:
"Away With All Pests" by a doctor who witnessed the health care movement; "Fanshen", by William Hinton, an agriculture specialist
who lived in a red-controlled village and was fluent in Chinese. It talks about many things, including how party leaders could be recalled by popular vote
in the village (and anyone could vote regardless of party membership). There's another book (forgot the name) by a British industrial expert who
witnessed the worker-run tractor factories. He describes how everything from work hours to child care was decided by the workers, in what 
seemed like chaos compared to our regimented work lives in the West, and that he saw them produce more than any European factory ever did.
 


From: karen.weil at sddt.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:49:09 -0700
Subject: Re: [kj] KJ in China?



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In the purest sense? No. But certainly, they carried out more of the practices that define a communist gov't -- until some free-market ideals were introduced in the early 80s.
Doesn't matter, now -- the regime there is still miserable. 
 
K.W. 

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From: folk devil 
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was it ever? 
 

 


From: karen.weil at sddt.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:54:04 -0700
Subject: Re: [kj] KJ in China?



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Totally agree with Greg on this. China's gov't. is hardly communist anymore. 


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