[kj] The trouble is......

[sade1]

I think the words "zeitgeist" and even "gestalt" are in order here (tho' I haven't completely mastered what they mean, but hey!).  
I think the whole idea, nay, deed!, of having one's unique-&-exceptional experience of a given zeitgeist or even gestalt being slapped down, ridiculed-as-quaint and/or even despised-n'-denied is appropriately Offensive. 
And then having it all zombie-cloned as some deadeyed, stillborn, undead not-quite-human contemporary corpse of some "Christmas-past" to be sippy-cup fed as "new" and "legitimate" PAP for contemporary Gullibles & Manipulatables is.. jarring to those who first heard it, experienced it and were an actual living part of the times that so vividly created it/that/whatever (KJ-1, Zeppelin 1, etc.et.cet.era.), and not just someone who bought that fuckin' t-shirt - at Target on sale! Aaaghh!!
 
Tangible examples - 
PUNK - then: Ramones, OI Polloi,      now: GREEN DAY?!   Gaah!
              then: Joy Division, Bauhaus  now: She Wants Revenge, the whole 
                       Electro/Synth post-Emo=Eloi scene and its Muzak. 
                                
Make it stop!  
 
To all the current bands: what is wrong with just trying out doing ORIGINAL music? NEW music? You don't all have to try and sound like, um, The Cure, Joy Division, U2. It's okay if you all try otherwise. Really. 
No, really. 
 
 
Thank yooouuu!!! Good nite L.A.!!! 
 
 
 
 
 
 
[and GER - AUS 4-0 =:~o (wtfwasthat??!) but I have faith in the 'Roos. I know they'll bounce back!]
 

 

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From: GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com>
To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Sun, June 13, 2010 7:12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] The trouble is......

Good point. I see what Ollie and TB and others are saying-the music is as good or maybe even better that the "old days" but in the old days much of it was radically original, and
there was a feeling in the air that is hard to replicate. 
 
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From: fluke1 at live.co.uk
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 01:35:55 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] The trouble is......

 
 
  My point wasn't about the quality of the song, it was about how a person relates to said song .
Songs from the era of Killings Jokes inception were actually a new genre and original and anything done after that in that genre is , to a certain degree, copyist. 
 
 

 

> Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 18:12:50 -0500

> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] The trouble is......

> 

> My point: I am tired of "time warp"-ism.

> 

> Nothing new after a) 1973, b) 1984, c) 1995. If some new band chances to 

> come after those dates, they get dismissed alltoo easily as being mere 

> shadows of the EA shit that oler folks were lucky enough to experience 

> in their prime. but if you were born later? Well, you missed out. Sorry.

> 

> The original comment was, "You are all waiting for another 'Wardance' 

> [1979] to come along," from fluw. Many, MANY, "Wardances" have come 

> along since the

> 

> -0liver

> 

> 

> On 6/13/10 6:02 PM, TB wrote:

> >

> > I think you both are throwing a lot of silly, baseless assumptions at large groups of people here based on often inaccurate

> > interpretations of a few people's comments.

> >

> > T.B.

> >

> >

> > 

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