[kj] Unacceptable

[The Exorcist]

I just went to ticketmaster and some of the locations that are 
redirected to partner sites are still
selling them.

At 11:27 AM 3/4/2010, Simon Abinett wrote:

>Ticket master are no longer selling tickets , tried calling them to 

>speak to an operator but that is an impossibility.

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>From: gregslawson at msn.com

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:15:18 -0500

>Subject: Re: [kj] Unacceptable

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>I'm still not convinced this is a real cancellation. It's only come 

>from some obscure website, hasn't been on the bands' or any of the 

>clubs sites, nobody in touch w/the band has heard anything yet, etc. 

>It could be a prank or just misinformation...

>

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>Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 14:49:54 +0000

>From: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Subject: Re: [kj] Unacceptable

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>If there's solid reasons for cancelling the tour I'm sure most of us 

>will understand. Sometimes unforeseen things happen that are 

>completely beyond the control of the people involved. Unfortunately 

>this kind of thing has happened a lot over the past 10+ years- has 

>there been any Killing Joke release or tour from Democracy onwards 

>that hasn't been plagued with problems? A lot of people have made 

>arrangements that have gone to waste, over and over again, and that 

>can start to become trying, not to mention inordinately expensive. 

>However, as I said, if there's a good reason behind these 

>cancellations, most of us will be fairly sympathetic.

>

>There is one area which is *never* beyond the group's control- and 

>that is communication. If there are problems, the fans need to be 

>kept informed at all times, so that we can understand the situation 

>and make our own arrangements. We really do need accurate updates 

>and facts whenever possible.

>

>Jim.

>

>--- On Wed, 3/3/10, Marcel <spooman at freenet.de> wrote:

>Aren't you being a little bit harsh? I do know this whole thing sucks

>big time, but what if they're having a serious problem? Some of them

>haven't led their lifes in the most healthiest manner...

>

>And I don't really believe fans will not buy their albums because

>they cancel tours. In fact some of us have bought a shitload of

>albums in the last couple of years full of songs we already owned for

>a very long time...

>

>I also have to say that I find this fantasy about the dead Geordie on

>stage extremely tasteless - even if it's meant to be a joke. It's

>deffo not a killing one.

>I'm grateful for every KJ gig I can see. After Democracy they seemed

>to have quit and I was very happy to see them return and to get the

>opportunity to see them play again. You never know when it's over for good....

>Give em a break and wait what the reasons are. You can slaughter

>them, if it turns out to be bullshit.

>

>Sorry if that sounds pathetic but it's the way I feel and I had to

>get it off my chest.

>

>Marcel GER

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> >  1. Re: This: About Raven (Karen Weil)

> >  2. Re: Unacceptable (Karen Weil)

> >  3. Re: It starts...Album & tour Postponed to September (Karen Weil)

> >  4. Re: It starts...Album & tour Postponed to September (Karen Weil)

> >  5. Re: It starts...Album & tour Postponed to September (Karen Weil)

> >  6. Re: The Complications opening for Killing Joke in Montreal

> >      (circusbar)

> >  7. Re: Unacceptable (Floren Luke)

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> >Message: 1

> >Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 10:16:50 -0800

> >From: "Karen Weil" 

> <<http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=karen.weil@sddt.com>karen.weil at sddt.com>

> >Subject: Re: [kj] This: About Raven

> >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"

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> >True, that. : )

> >

> >k.w.

> >San Diego

> >----- Original Message -----

> >From: "Ana Madani" 

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> >Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 7:56 AM

> >Subject: Re: [kj] This: About Raven

> >

> >

> >Paul?s mother, Kate, said it was an ?amazing tribute? to her son, who

> >died of a suspected heart attack aged 46. Mrs Raven, of

> >Tettenhall,Wolverhampton, said: ?Paul would have been so proud that

> >his music was in the film and so are we.

> >

> >?He would have loved to go to the Oscars. He might even have been on

> >the red carpet."

> >

> >

> >Now *that* would have made the Oscars worth watching!

> >

> >

> >

> >On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Rheinhold Squeegee 

> <<http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kjlist@live.com>kjlist at live.com> 

> wrote:

> > >

> > 

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> >Message: 2

> >Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 10:20:47 -0800

> >From: "Karen Weil" 

> <<http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=karen.weil@sddt.com>karen.weil at sddt.com>

> >Subject: Re: [kj] Unacceptable

> >To: 

> <<http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=phil.tofield@virgin.net>phil.tofield at virgin.net>, 

> "A list about all things Killing Joke

> >        \(the band!\)" 

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> >While I wouldn't excoriate the band -- after all, IF it is indeed true, the

> >band may very well have a legitimate reason for delaying -- I would write a

> >letter simply stating how heartbroken many would be if they can't play live

> >this year.

> >For whatever it's worth ...

> >

> >K.W.

> >the States

> >----- Original Message -----

> >From: "phil" 

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> >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

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> >Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 5:05 AM

> >Subject: Re: [kj] Unacceptable

> >

> >

> >I agree with this idea. They cant keep pissing people around like this

> >and expect us to keep buying into it. Long gone are the days when I

> >bother to follow them everywhere they play, but others do and will no

> >doubt be considerably out of pocket as a result of this.

> >

> >Its things like this, combined with the fact that they've played

> >virtually the same fucking set list for the last 10 years, that make

> >me seriously wonder why Ive bothered to maintain an interest in the

> >band for so long.

> >

> >On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 10:38:06 +0000, you wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >Killing joke need to be told that this is unacceptable.

> > >

> > >A letter needs to be written to them letting them how much hardship all

> > >these cancellations causes people .

> > >

> > >   Tour dates shouldn't be announced until they are 100% sure that they

> > > will be going ahead , its understandable that the occasional concert has

> > > to be postponed , but these levels of postponements are just unacceptable

> > > .

> > >

> > >  It was announced that Hosannas would get an airing at a venue and the

> > > entrance fee was ?20..and the album didn't even get played : Anyone going

> > > to Geneva ?

> > >

> > >  Every tour seems to get postponed at least once or twice and dont even

> > > mention Gems of Power.

> > >

> > >Killing Joke need to be told that their levels of professionalism are

> > >wholly unacceptable.

> > >

> > >  Anyone any good at writing letters ?

> > >

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> >Message: 3

> >Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 10:22:27 -0800

> >From: "Karen Weil" 

> <<http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=karen.weil@sddt.com>karen.weil at sddt.com>

> >Subject: Re: [kj] It starts...Album & tour Postponed to September

> >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"

> > 

> <<http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gathering@misera.net>gathering at misera.net>

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> >My sentiments, exactly. If anyone has any direct connection to the

> >band, please pass that on: We need the official story.

> >

> >Best,

> >

> >K.W.

> >SoCal

> >   ----- Original Message -----

> >   From: Alexander Smith

> >   To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> >   Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 4:05 AM

> >   Subject: Re: [kj] It starts...Album & tour Postponed to September

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >   I'm going to go off on a limb here, but I blame Spinefarm

> > records. Why? Because, honestly, if you're moronic enough to name

> > your business venture "Spinefarm," I'd say there's a 99% chance

> > that you really don't have your shit in order.

> >

> >

> >   An official statement would be strenuously appreciated at this

> > unfortunate-but-all-too-familiar stage of the proceedings.

> >

> >

> >   Alex in NYC

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >   On Mar 3, 2010, at 5:45 AM, 

> <<http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jane.shadforth@shell.com>jane.shadforth at shell.com> 

> wrote:

> >

> >

> >     If it's true - I guess Iain & I will be having a very different

> > holiday in Eastern Europe. Oh well - shrugs....

> >

> >     All trains booked between Manchester & Prague - I'm not wasting them...

> >      -----Original Message-----

> >      From: 

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> > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Rheinhold Squeegee

> >      Sent: 02 March 2010 22:18

> >      To: Gathering Gathering

> >      Subject: [kj] It starts...Album & tour Postponed to September

> >

> >

> > 

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> >      I think they do this to us on purpose...

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> >Message: 4

> >Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 10:23:08 -0800

> >From: "Karen Weil" 

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> >Subject: Re: [kj] It starts...Album & tour Postponed to September

> >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"

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> >That's my situation.

> >

> >k.w.

> >SoCal

> >   ----- Original Message -----

> >   From: Floren Luke

> >   To: 

> <http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gathering@misera.net>gathering at misera.net

> >   Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 7:56 AM

> >   Subject: Re: [kj] It starts...Album & tour Postponed to September

> >

> >

> >

> >     It may have been mildly amusing when Kj were playing the local

> > Palais and all punters  had to do was turn up on a different dater,

> > but its a different matter when people book time off work and

> > purchase non refundable flights and pay for hotel rooms .

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >   > Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 14:44:17 +0100

> >   > From: 

> <http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wo2@gmx.de>wo2 at gmx.de

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> >   > Subject: Re: [kj] It starts...Album & tour Postponed to September

> >   >

> >   >

> >   >

> >   > haha ... the jokers at their best

> >   > but maybe that's not true because

> >   > .. normaly they cancel later ...

> >   >

> >   >

> >   > wolfi

> >   >

> >   >

> >   >

> >   >

> >   > > On Mar 2, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Rheinhold Squeegee wrote:

> >   > >

> >   > > > 

> <http://www.bravewords.com/news/133558>http://www.bravewords.com/news/133558

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> >   > > > I think they do this to us on purpose...

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> >Message: 5

> >Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 10:26:38 -0800

> >From: "Karen Weil" 

> <<http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=karen.weil@sddt.com>karen.weil at sddt.com>

> >Subject: Re: [kj] It starts...Album & tour Postponed to September

> >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"

> > 

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> >Good grief, Cliff -- that is one hell of an ordeal. Appreciate your

> >sense of humor about it, however.

> >Everybody just keep your fingers crossed.

> >

> >k.w.

> >the States

> >

> >   ----- Original Message -----

> >   From: Cliff Livingston

> >   To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> >   Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 11:40 PM

> >   Subject: Re: [kj] It starts...Album & tour Postponed to September

> >

> >

> >   happened to me and the wife in 2006,had the Alaska to UK trip

> > ready,drop the kids off in NYC and then off to London and the band

> > had to reschedule,so we went thru so much work to get everything in

> > order,off work,off school,and flights,and lucky enuf to stay with

> > Woody 2 Shoes,we went and had a complete blast,meeting gatherers

> > while there,and cursed Killing Joke the entire time,haha.

> >   I do hope everything's ok in KJ land and that you all get some

> > well deserved fun and do get to see the band when they do the tour.

> >   CliffMonk

> >

> >

> >   On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Brian Whitehead

> > 

> <<http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bawhitehead@gmail.com>bawhitehead at gmail.com> 

> wrote:

> >

> >     If this is true I think it'll be once too many for me. I've

> > ended up on two mini holidays in Germany in the past with no KJ

> > gig, doing my tour of zoos.

> >     The cash I've lost is a joke and I feel for those (Jon etc) who

> > were darting all round Europe and will have lost a hell of a lot more.

> >

> >     I just hope the band come up with some sort of 'make it up' for

> > those who've lost out AGAIN.

> >

> >     Brian. (looking up if Edinbrugh has a zoo)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >     On 2 March 2010 22:28, Simon Abinett 

> <<http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=louiecipher33@hotmail.com>louiecipher33 at hotmail.com> 

> wrote:

> >

> >      You have to be fucking kidding!!!

> >

> >      That's all our flight money down the drain :( :(

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> >      Subject: Re: [kj] It starts...Album & tour Postponed to September

> >

> >

> >      Oh you are fucking joking!!

> >

> >      *unhappy face*

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >      On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Rheinhold Squeegee

> > 

> <<http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kjlist@live.com>kjlist at live.com> 

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> >

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> >Message: 6

> >Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 15:42:41 -0300

> >From: circusbar 

> <<http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=circusbar@uol.com.br>circusbar at uol.com.br>

> >Subject: Re: [kj] The Complications opening for Killing Joke in

> >        Montreal

> >To: Alex Smith 

> <<http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vassifer@earthlink.net>vassifer at earthlink.net>, 

> "A list about all things

> >        Killing Joke (the band!)" 

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> >Message: 7

> >Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 18:43:51 +0000

> >From: Floren Luke 

> <<http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=fluke1@live.co.uk>fluke1 at live.co.uk>

> >Subject: Re: [kj] Unacceptable

> >To: 

> <<http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gathering@misera.net>gathering at misera.net>

> >Message-ID: 

> <<http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=SNT104-W3820034537FFA3EC47DACFBE3A0@phx.gbl>SNT104-W3820034537FFA3EC47DACFBE3A0 at phx.gbl>

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> >

> >I beleive that that is where the problem lies .

> >

> >The band need to realise that they HAVE to get their act together.

> >

> >The band need to realise that without people buying their albums and

> >without people buying their concert tickets, there would be no point

> >in them existing .

> >

> >   At this point in their career, Killing Joke need their supporters

> > much more than their supporters need Killing Joke .

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > From: 

> <http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=karen.weil@sddt.com>karen.weil at sddt.com

> > > To: 

> <http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=phil.tofield@virgin.net>phil.tofield at virgin.net; 

> <http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gathering@misera.net>gathering at misera.net

> > > Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 10:20:47 -0800

> > > Subject: Re: [kj] Unacceptable

> > >

> > > While I wouldn't excoriate the band -- after all, IF it is indeed

> > true, the

> > > band may very well have a legitimate reason for delaying -- I

> > would write a

> > > letter simply stating how heartbroken many would be if they can't

> > play live

> > > this year.

> > > For whatever it's worth ...

> > >

> > > K.W.

> > > the States

> > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > From: "phil" 

> <<http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=phil.tofield@virgin.net>phil.tofield at virgin.net>

> > > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

> > > 

> <<http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gathering@misera.net>gathering at misera.net>

> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 5:05 AM

> > > Subject: Re: [kj] Unacceptable

> > >

> > >

> > > I agree with this idea. They cant keep pissing people around like this

> > > and expect us to keep buying into it. Long gone are the days when I

> > > bother to follow them everywhere they play, but others do and will no

> > > doubt be considerably out of pocket as a result of this.

> > >

> > > Its things like this, combined with the fact that they've played

> > > virtually the same fucking set list for the last 10 years, that make

> > > me seriously wonder why Ive bothered to maintain an interest in the

> > > band for so long.

> > >

> > > On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 10:38:06 +0000, you wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > >Killing joke need to be told that this is unacceptable.

> > > >

> > > >A letter needs to be written to them letting them how much hardship all

> > > >these cancellations causes people .

> > > >

> > > > Tour dates shouldn't be announced until they are 100% sure that they

> > > > will be going ahead , its understandable that the occasional 

> concert has

> > > > to be postponed , but these levels of postponements are just

> > unacceptable

> > > > .

> > > >

> > > > It was announced that Hosannas would get an airing at a venue and the

> > > > entrance fee was ?20..and the album didn't even get played :

> > Anyone going

> > > > to Geneva ?

> > > >

> > > > Every tour seems to get postponed at least once or twice and dont even

> > > > mention Gems of Power.

> > > >

> > > >Killing Joke need to be told that their levels of professionalism are

> > > >wholly unacceptable.

> > > >

> > > > Anyone any good at writing letters ?

> > > >

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