[kj] It starts...Album & tour Postponed to September

[Brendan]

Marcel, did you change your email address or was it always Spooman mit keine
p? And here I thought you had good taste in music! (Witz ;)

I reckon KJ have every chance of making it much bigger than they have for
decades, if they make the right decisions. Whether this is or isn't a good
decision for popularity, who knows. Certainly not a good move in terms of
the core fanbase. But what that means to them vs popularity who knows.

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Marcel
Sent: Friday, 5 March 2010 11:35 PM
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] It starts...Album & tour Postponed to September

Ok, so you were right and it IS bullshit and extremely annoying.
I too think they made a deal with spinefarm for a fast buck - a 
handful of these gruesome bands do sell quite good in Europe and are 
being promoted well (not only in the metal press). But off course 
they don't reach some areas of the media - it's been said that KJ 
might be thinking of making it big once again (I don't believe they 
will) so I agree that might indeed be the reason for this whole 
postponing business.

Marcel GER
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>    1. Re: It starts...Album & tour Postponed to September

>       (Alexander Smith)

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>       (Alexander Smith)

>    4. Re: Killing joke should be liable (Alexander Smith)

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>Message: 1

>Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:03:58 -0500

>From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>

>Subject: Re: [kj] It starts...Album & tour Postponed to September

>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"

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>Maybe it's not cost effective, but whatever happened to KJ's habit of

>released single e.p.s that had little or nothing to do with subsequent

>albums? "Me or You"? "A New Day"? "Birds of a Feather"?

>

>

>

>Alex in NYC

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>

>On Mar 4, 2010, at 11:05 PM, Dominico C wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Yeah, if its true... Spine Farm SUCK! They already established dates

> > and they had months to "promote" the album! The best way to

> > "promote" the album would be to release... Well, maybe a 3-4 track

> > EP, in that some kind of form!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I heard today from a reliable source that it is all off ... and it's

> > due to the record company wanting to properly promote the album cos

> > they like it so much ... if that's true Spinefarm are a bunch of

> > spineless tossers ... these dates were set up ages ago ... why not

> > just release a single now and do a further tour in the autumn ...

> >

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>Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:08:26 -0500

>From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>

>Subject: Re: [kj] ouch

>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"

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>The venue they were playing here in NYC is literally only six blocks

>away from my front door, but I'm still quite furious. Not to sounds

>needlessly gloomy, but there's been precious little I've been looking

>forward to apart from the `Joke show. I CANNOT IMAGINE how pissed off

>someone who bought plane tickets and made travel arrangements (let

>alone paid the increasingly exorbitant concert ticket fee) must be.

>

>Grumble Grumble

>

>Alex in NYC

>

>

>

>On Mar 5, 2010, at 1:40 AM, LONESTYLE at aol.com wrote:

>

> > Man, that sucks! I feel sorry for the gatherers that bought all

> > kinds of tickets just to go and see them. I think Spinefarm should

> > get a ton of emails from all of us and tell them how pissed off we

> > all are.

> >

> > ~ LB

> >

> > In a message dated 3/4/2010 9:37:54 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, 

> letranger789 at yahoo.com

> >  writes:

> > This just in from Poland.  I bought tickets to the Poland shows (and

> > rented hotels and bought plane and train tickets...). This message

> > was sent to me in Polish.  The translation is not exact but you get

> > the idea...

> >

> > fuck.

> >

> >

> >

> > Ladies and Gentlemen, we have received official information that the

> > concerts KILLING JOKE [April 27, 2010 in Katowice, and April 28,

> > 2010 in Warsaw] were canceled. (Concerts were canceled for reasons

> > beyond the control of the organizer. The team decided to extend the

> > work on the new album and also to translate the entire European

> > route.) To get a refund for purchased tickets to the event appeals

> > to: * Return tickets with a receipt (in case of his absence - a

> > statement of its lost) to the address of our company (Ticket Online

> > Poland Sp. z oo ul. Walbrzyska 11; 02-739 Warsaw) * Attach a ticket

> > completed legibly, printed and signed form, return ticket which is

> > annexed the wiadomo?ciWA?NE: * The money we pay for tickets only to

> > transfer to your account (do not make postal orders, returns on

> > credit cards or cash refunds) , * Money will be transferred within a

> > maximum of 2 weeks from receipt of the ticket, * Please only cost of

> > tickets, do not pay the cost

> > of service (mail, courier) * Tickets to return at their own expense,

> > * Improperly completed form of return tickets can result in delayed

> > recovery incurred koszt?w.Z Sincerely, Magdalena MajewskaDzia?

> > Customer Service

> >

> > On Thu Mar 4th, 2010 6:34 PM EST folk devil wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >Bollocks. Jaz Coleman, corporate whore?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >Shake hands with MD, maybe?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >From: karen.weil at sddt.com

> > >To: gathering at misera.net

> > >Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 15:14:10 -0800

> > >Subject: Re: [kj] It starts...Album & tour Postponed to September

> > >

> > >

> > >It would be a start, at least.

> > >

> > >Karen W.

> > >SoCal

> > >

> > >----- Original Message -----

> > >From: LONESTYLE at aol.com

> > >To: gathering at misera.net

> > >Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:42 PM

> > >Subject: Re: [kj] It starts...Album & tour Postponed to September

> > >

> > >

> > >Why doesn't KJ go to fuckin Universal or some other rich record

> > company that has bank and get the album out sooner? Now that's

> > fuckin proper!

> > >

> > >~LB

> > >

> > >

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>Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:11:58 -0500

>From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>

>Subject: Re: [kj] It starts...Album & tour Postponed to September

>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"

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>Rob's right -- the major labels probably don't want to take the

>business gamble with Killing Joke in a industry environment that is

>already plagued with problems. That said, I still think a canonical

>name like "KILLING JOKE" should be able to land a more credible,

>responsible and established indie venture than the evidently

>amateurish Spinefarm.

>

>Isn't this the same scenario that occurred with EXTREMITIES (released

>here in the State initially by metal label Noise International?) The

>moral of the story: KJ shouldn't make deals with long-haired Heshers

>with nose rings and pentagram tattoos.

>

>Alex in NYC

>

>

>On Mar 5, 2010, at 3:39 AM, Rob Moss wrote:

>

> > Maybe because, relatively, they sell fuck all.

> > Why would Universal WANT Killing Joke?

> >

> > Look at their history.

> >

> > A good sound investment?

> > Ask all those who bought flight tickets, then multiply that by 1,000

> > and you'll have Universal's answer!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >> ----- Original Message -----

> >> From: LONESTYLE at aol.com

> >> Sent: 03/04/10 10:42 PM

> >> To: gathering at misera.net

> >> Subject: Re: [kj] It starts...Album & tour Postponed to September

> >>

> >> Why doesn't KJ go to fuckin Universal or some other rich record

> >> company that has bank and get the album out sooner? Now that's

> >> fuckin proper!

> >>

> >> ~LB

> >>

> >> In a message dated 3/4/2010 10:19:38 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, 

> pssyche23 at hotmail.com

> >>  writes:

> >> I heard today from a reliable source that it is all off ... and

> >> it's due to the record company wanting to properly promote the

> >> album cos they like it so much ... if that's true Spinefarm are a

> >> bunch of spineless tossers ... these dates were set up ages ago ...

> >> why not just release a single now and do a further tour in the

> >> autumn ...

> >>

> >>

> >> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 15:21:31 +0100

> >> From: rob.moss at gmx.com

> >> To: gathering at misera.net; gathering at misera.net

> >> Subject: Re: [kj] It starts...Album & tour Postponed to September

> >>

> >>

> >> I'm in touch with Big Paul.

> >>

> >> Seems he wasn't even properly informed.

> >>

> >> Don't know wanything else yet.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> ----- Original Message -----

> >> From: Karen Weil

> >> Sent: 03/03/10 06:22 PM

> >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)

> >> Subject: Re: [kj] It starts...Album & tour Postponed to September

> >>

> >> My sentiments, exactly. If anyone has any direct connection to the

> >> band, please pass that on: We need the official story.

> >>

> >> Best,

> >>

> >> K.W.

> >> SoCal

> >> ----- Original Message -----

> >> From: Alexander Smith

> >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 4:05 AM

> >> Subject: Re: [kj] It starts...Album & tour Postponed to September

> >>

> >>

> >> I'm going to go off on a limb here, but I blame Spinefarm records.

> >> Why? Because, honestly, if you're moronic enough to name your

> >> business venture "Spinefarm," I'd say there's a 99% chance that you

> >> really don't have your shit in order.

> >>

> >> An official statement would be strenuously appreciated at this

> >> unfortunate-but-all-too-familiar stage of the proceedings.

> >>

> >> Alex in NYC

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> On Mar 3, 2010, at 5:45 AM, <jane.shadforth at shell.com> wrote:

> >>

> >> If it's true - I guess Iain & I will be having a very different

> >> holiday in Eastern Europe. Oh well - shrugs....

> >>

> >> All trains booked between Manchester & Prague - I'm not wasting

> >> them...

> >> -----Original Message-----

> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net

> >> ]On Behalf Of Rheinhold Squeegee

> >> Sent: 02 March 2010 22:18

> >> To: Gathering Gathering

> >> Subject: [kj] It starts...Album & tour Postponed to September

> >>

> >> http://www.bravewords.com/news/133558

> >>

> >> I think they do this to us on purpose...

> >>

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>Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:14:20 -0500

>From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>

>Subject: Re: [kj] Killing joke should be liable

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>"I realise that the chances of you shelling out are as about as remote

>as Motu Ihupuku Island in New Zealand"

>

>

>Bahahahahahaha. First good laugh of the morning.

>

>Alex in NYC

>

>

>

>On Mar 5, 2010, at 4:01 AM, Floren Luke wrote:

>

> > Killing Joke should reimburse anyone who spent money on flights and

> > hotels .

> >

> >

> >   Dear Jeremy , After the announcement  of the latest tour, numerous

> > people shelled out on Flights and Hotels which , due to people

> > buying the cheapest ones, are non refundable . This is a direct

> > result of Killing Jokes actions and I feel that the band should be

> > liable and they, you , should reimburse people for the amount that

> > they have spent , as you didn't even reimburse people for the Gems

> > of Power album, I realise that isn't much chance of this happening .

> >   I realise that the chances of you shelling out are as about as

> > remote as Motu Ihupuku Island in New Zealand , So I suggest that as

> > a matter of goodwill, on the new album, on the last page of the CD

> > booklet , where you are giving a shout out too all your

> > acquaintances with fancy names, I suggest that you add the names of

> > the people who spent money on flights and Hotels to the list . "With

> > special thanks to*

> >    The people are as follows.........*Please add you name *

> >

> >

> >

> >

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