[kj] Latest Blog Post from Youth:
Karen Weil
karen.weil at sddt.com
Thu Mar 11 13:16:16 EST 2010
Amen, Brendan.
k.w.
the States
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From: "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
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Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 7:28 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Latest Blog Post from Youth:
> "Obama DID inherit two wars and a pathetic economy on the brink of
> implosion, whether one likes it or not."
>
> The Republicans claim "yeah and he quadrupled the deficit"
>
> Forgetting that he did it with the bailout...which Bush started,
> Republicans
> voted for under Bush, and wouldn't vote for under Obama.
>
> You're fucked when your politicians put politics ahead of everything else.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
> On
> Behalf Of B. Oliver Sheppard
> Sent: Thursday, 11 March 2010 7:36 AM
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> Subject: Re: [kj] Latest Blog Post from Youth:
>
> That's certainly not the official government statistic, or even the U-6
> (I think that's what it's called) which counts the UNDER-employed etc as
> "jobless." Bu who can trust the govt., right? better to trust private
> industry standards.
>
> Having said that, I find it amusing that people have an amnesia that
> conveniently began on January 20, 2009, or so. Many people suddenly
> found their inner Libertarian on that day. Amazing!
>
> Unemployment is always usually higher than the official statistics. But
> the idea that the sun set and darkness in one month in January of last
> year is laughable. This has been a creping catastrophe that, yes,
> whether your favorite Republican/Libertarian talking points like it or
> not, did not start and/or end with Obama the
> NAZI/FASCIST/HIPPIE/SOCIALIST/DICTATOR/KENYAN/MUSLIM. It's a structural
> deficiency in our under-regulated, capitalist run economy. Most
> politicians in DC are lieutenants of the business community (i.e. bosses
> and employers). Obama DID inherit two wars and a pathetic economy on the
> brink of implosion, whether one likes it or not.
>
> The criticism one can have is: Has Obama done too much -- or too little?
> The right says he has done *too much*! ("Government takeovers," blah
> blah blah). He needs to sit on his hands, as FDR should have done during
> the Great Depression, reading the Greek classics in the Oval Office,
> letting the markets play themselves out and work out their own kinks,
> consequences be damned.
>
> Yet -- Obama was elected for a reason, which was not to be an absentee
> president, but to play a pro-active role in government to address these
> pressing, serious issues. He has actually failed on this account by
> being TOO beholden to industry, capitalist prerogatives, bankers' whims.
> etc. The current US economic climate is not because he hasn't been
> friendly enough to business. That is just Loony Tunes land, if you
> believe that sort of FOX News conspiranoid bullshit. He has been too
> craven in the face of private, capitalist power.
>
> Again: Obama, if anything, has been TOO craven to the whim of private
> business power - has not taken them on enough - unlike FDR, who had
> absolutely no p[roblem pissing off the right people and thus getting
> elected to 4 terms. Oh, and FDR also defeated fascism, while he was it.
> Republicans hate this. Obama is too beholden to private corporate
> interests and he needs to grow a pair and tell them to fuck off.
>
> -Oliver
>
>
> sade1 wrote:
>> The U.S. jobless rate is now about 22% (the pre-Crash-of-2007 official
>> rate was 4.5%),
>> but,
>> household incomes:
>>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/10/no-labor-market-recession_n_456797.
> html
>> $150K or more, now just *3.2%* jobless
>> $100-150K, it is now at 4%,
>> $0.00 - 12,500, it is now _/30.8%!/_
>> the lowest 10% of homes are 50% jobless,
>> 2nd lowest 10% of homes are 30% jobless,
>>
>> Also, "families with a net worth of at least $1 million, /_excluding
>> primary residences_/, *rose *to 7.8 million in 2009," an increase of
>> *16 percent*...from 6.7 million a year earlier, according to a survey
>> of high- net-worth U.S. households conducted by Spectrem Group"
>>
> http://www.truthout.org/number-millionaires-us-increased-16-percent-20095753
> 1
>>
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>>
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