[kj] Extremities
Wessidetempest
wessidetempest at hotmail.com
Thu Mar 18 12:21:26 EDT 2010
I consider Extremities lp more punk than metal. There's no chuggy
chuggy metal riffs and the drumming is pretty much straight 4/4 with
bridges
Pandemonium has the chuggy chuggy riffing.
I always wondered if it was Geordie or Raven that brought the metal to
Killing Joke. If you really insist on using that term
Chris
On Mar 18, 2010, at 7:14 AM, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, that's it, thank you - Ministry - far more accurate than my
> lazy thrash tag.
> I think my dissatisfaction with Extremities came from the fact that
> for the first time
> I thought, Hmm, that sounds like [insert band here] - something I'd
> never done before with Killing Joke.
>
> We can blame it on the drummer can't we.
>
> N
>
> On 18 March 2010 07:21, Leigh Newton <angrytomhanks at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Extremities is fantastic. Certainly the fast part in the Beautiful
> Dead and parts like it have that Ministry "Mind is a Terrible Thing"
> vibe and sound dated as hell now but I think it was just a matter of
> them trying to "keep up with the joneses". Trying to stay relevent
> to the kids while still retaining their own unique sound. I think
> it's a nice blend and I love that they attempted it. I don't think
> it's the first time they deviated from their standard sound and
> tried to take on different contemporary styles. Pretty much
> everything from Nighttime and on sees them melding their style to
> what was current at the time. The idea of Killing Joke absorbing the
> musical climate at any given time, putting it through their own
> filter and spitting it back out is one that I'm totally into. I'll
> take that from most bands, actually. Pandemonium and Democracy both
> have standout tracks but are also lousy with filler. Extremities is
> a much more solid album. I think it's the last really relevent thing
> they did, although KJ2003 comes close.
>
> Leigh
>
>
> http://www.nightruiner.com
> http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope
> http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale
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> From: Matthew Burke <marsboy1 at msn.com>
> To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 8:56:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities
>
> i think extremities is one of the most complete and perfect things
> they ever did, the recording style merely reaffirmed the "punk" in
> their post-punk pedigree.
>
>
>
> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:48:50 -0700
> From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities
>
> I found DMCRCY was a welcome tack in a lighter direction after the
> intensity
> of the "Extremities.. - L?IMBO - Pandemonium" sequence.
>
>
> ... ... ... ... ... ...
>
> [looking at the current state of things..]
>
> 'Who has the fun..
> ..is it always a man with a gun...?
> Someone must have told him if you work too hard... you can sweat"
>
>
> From: n0153 jr <nomeanswhat at gmail.com>
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net
> >
> Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 4:35:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities
>
> love 'em both... that's it.
> even like democracy a lot.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:27 PM, sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I've always thought that "Extremities.."(the song) went a little too
> "Pink Floyd-ish" at parts.
> I think Jaz is the Pink Floyd fan of the group.
>
>
> ... ... ... ... ... ...
>
> [looking at the current state of things..]
>
> 'Who has the fun..
> ..is it always a man with a gun...?
> Someone must have told him if you work too hard... you can sweat"
>
>
> From: Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com>
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net
> >
> Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 2:28:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities
>
> Yeah I know its a lazy phrase... I'm listening to Extremities now
> and I chiefly meant
> the fast section slapped into the middle of Beautiful Dead for
> absolutely no reason that ruins what would
> have been a fantastic song, the horrible mess that is Struggle and
> sections of the title track.
>
> But Geordie's guitar sounds fucking incredible - was this the last
> time that sound we all
> know and love was in evidence on a KJ record?
>
> Sorry Jel, no more analysis, promise
>
>
> On 16 March 2010 16:24, Brian Whitehead <bawhitehead at gmail.com> wrote:
> "bad thrash metal stuff on Extremities"
>
> This has been levelled at Extremeties in the past and to be honest I
> cant see it? May be as I don't listen to a lot of thrash metal.
>
> Following Jon's footy analogy, it's 4-2 to Extremeties for me with a
> Geordie hat-trick.
>
> Brian.
>
>
> On 16 March 2010 13:12, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:
> Well I think both albums are games of two halves, Alan
>
> Always hated the bad thrash metal stuff on Extremities but some of
> the guitar
> work still stands as some of Geordie's finest - and Termite Mound is
> always in
> my KJ top ten. Except that Termite Mound was very unrepresentative
> of the
> whole LP - wish it was more like this. I just don't think KJ do fast
> very well,
> and are far more menacing when they slow it down
>
> Where as Pandemonium had some filler, agreed, but the good stuff was
> great - and I include Communion, the title track, Black Moon and the
> original mixes of
> Millennium and Mathematics (cheating I know, but...)
>
> And I like Jana.
>
> It goes to penalties, and Pandemonium wins.
>
> Still getting me coat, Jamie hold the bus
>
> n
>
>
> On 16 March 2010 13:19, jon chapman <jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk>
> wrote:
> Pandemonium was ruined for the poor version of Mathematics,the shite
> that is Jana,Pleasures of The Flesh and i've grown to hate Communion.
>
> Extremities wasn't ruined.
>
>
>
> Extremities wins on the away goals rule.
>
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> From: gregslawson at msn.com
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:12:30 -0400
> Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities
>
>
> Extremities may be a better album--certainly more original, and no
> real weak songs--but Pandemonium is better to just sit there and
> rock out to!
>
> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:30:44 +0100
> From: rob.moss at gmx.com
> To: vassifer at earthlink.net; gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities
>
> Quite right.
>
>
> Looks likes its boys one side of the room and girls the other then!
>
>
> So that's it, if you prefer Pandemonium to Extremities, you are a
> girl. Period.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alex Smith
> Sent: 03/15/10 05:15 PM
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!), 'A list about
> all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
> Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities
>
> PANDEMONIUM has more filler than EXTREMITIES.
> Alex in NYC
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brendan
> Sent: Mar 15, 2010 11:59 AM
> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
> Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities
>
> I don’t mind it but Pandy pisses all over it. Ade agrees with me.
>
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>
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>
> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-
> bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Neil Perry
> Sent: Tuesday, 16 March 2010 2:52 AM
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities
>
>
>
>
>
> I never really liked Extremities.
> Too thrashy. I give Termite Mound and North of the Border a blast
> now and again.
>
> I'll get me coat
>
> N
>
>
>
>
> On 15 March 2010 16:00, n0153 jr <nomeanswhat at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> except Hosannas isn't as terrible as OTG... I actually like it a lot.
>
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> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:
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> Been a while since I gave this a listen and was blown away by just
> how good this one really is.
>
>
> I remember the sense of anticipation when this one came out after
> the way that OTG was perceived.
>
>
> This ticked all the boxes at the time.
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> Kind of feel the same about the new one!
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