[kj] (OT) Hate maps of the United States

[GREG SLAWSON]

I agree--I'd definitely call the JDL a hate group.
 


Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:03:10 -0700
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Hate maps of the United States








> pretty manipulative the way they lump together pro-peace groups like 'we are change' with 



> the most loathsome, toothless white power groups.  


 

    I think the SPLC's definition of hate has to do more with the subject espousing the hate, and less with the object of said hate (tho' i'd have to check their criteria again). For example, there's a - get this - jewish group** (can't be hateful, right?) who's called a hate group because here in the U.S. they try murdering  and plant bombs against who they think are enemies of the jewish people. 




   I've also known a few Hispanic nationalist types who have a fanatical "love" for their ethnicity but when they also actively wish harm on white people, that's when they're espousing hate as far as I'm concerned, no matter their "underdog" status of a minority-group advocate.
 
**JDL / Jewish Defense League
 
 
 
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[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Who has the fun.. 
  ..is it always a man with a gun...? 
    Someone must have told him if you work too hard... you can sweat" 






From: Matthew Burke <marsboy1 at msn.com>
To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 3:13:37 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Hate maps of the United States



poked around the site today to reacquaint myself with the splc, all eerily similar to the homeland security assessments of who the biggest threats to the country are.  

pretty manipulative the way they lump together pro-peace groups like 'we are change' with the most loathsome, toothless white power groups.  the biggest racists aren't wearing hoods anyway, they're in $10,000 suits.  

things seem to be pointing to branding any facet of the "patriot movement" as the new al-qaeda as a means to turn all the anti-terror mechanisms inward (which was always the plan, if you've ever cracked a history book).  it'll be a lot easier to find enemies if they're of the majority race and have ever mumbled something about having to pay taxes.  



Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:02:41 -0700
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Hate maps of the United States







> ..is that a.. hate group..?  ...a striking resemblance to...police.. in the states.


 
As most anything around here, it is all two sides of the same coin. 
The politics, Left and Right, are but 2 sides of the same, um, "exceptionalism," 
and the police and, um, "patriots" are 2 sides of the same visceral, um, "affinity"/fetish/cultish-swooning for institutionalized** force. 
[All a highly prevalent but not unanimous state of being]
 
 
**whether by a gov't., or "grassroots"
 
 
 

> ..is that a picture of a hate group.. . . police...?



http://www.splcenter.org/sites/default/files/imagecache/content_banner/hatemap_bannerhelmet-1.jpg
 
 
 
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[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Who has the fun.. 
  ..is it always a man with a gun...? 
    Someone must have told him if you work too hard... you can sweat" 






From: Matthew Burke <marsboy1 at msn.com>
To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 7:35:02 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Hate maps of the United States



is that a picture of a hate group on the home page?  because they bear a striking resemblance to what police are starting to look like in the states.




From: lennonka at gmail.com
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:47:42 +0200
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Hate maps of the United States

Oh my god... when they'll understand that they/we must stand for the opposite to make a change?
Otherwise, you support hate by hating hate and you've got catch 22. Ask for the opposite.


On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 7:12 PM, folk devil <folk.devil at hotmail.com> wrote:


http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map

Such a wonderful place to be....




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