[kj] (OT) The Religion of Peace, Love and Understanding

[Brendan]

Yep, some of the best are by ex Islamic scholars as well, like the guy I
quoted below.

'Why I am not a Muslim' by Ibn Warrag is worth reading.


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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
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Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The Religion of Peace, Love and Understanding

I can thoroughly recommend a book called "The End of Faith" by Sam
Harris, on this very subject. Well worth a read.

On Tue, 4 May 2010 08:08:44 +1000, you wrote:


>99% of muslims, by definition, believe in the subjugation of women, deny

the

>right of any other religion to exist, are against democracy...etc. The idea

>that all of the harm is in the fundamentalist fringe is outdated:

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> 

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>http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1452322/posts

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> 

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>So the mantra 'Islam is peace' is almost 1,400 years out of date. It was

>only for about 13 years that Islam was peace and nothing but peace. From

622

>onwards it became increasingly aggressive, albeit with periods of peaceful

>co-existence, particularly in the colonial period, when the theology of war

>was not dominant. For today's radical Muslims - just as for the mediaeval

>jurists who developed classical Islam - it would be truer to say 'Islam is

>war'. One of the most radical Islamic groups in Britain, al-Ghurabaa,

stated

>in the wake of the two London bombings, 'Any Muslim that denies that terror

>is a part of Islam is kafir.' A kafir is an unbeliever (i.e., a

non-Muslim),

>a term of gross insult.

>

> 

>

> 

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>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On

>Behalf Of Karen Weil

>Sent: Tuesday, 4 May 2010 5:16 AM

>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The Religion of Peace, Love and Understanding

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> 

>

>Unfortunately, while 99 percent of Muslims mean no one any harm, it's

>vicious cretins like this guy who continue to fan the flames of xenophobia,

>suspicion and irrational hatred of their faith by those of other religions,

>ethnic groups, etc. 

>

> 

>

>k.w.

>

>SoCal

>

> 

>

>----- Original Message ----- 

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>From: LONESTYLE at aol.com 

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>To: gathering at misera.net 

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>Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 12:22 PM

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>Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The Religion of Peace, Love and Understanding

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>That guy is an asshole! 

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>

>~ LB

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>

>In a message dated 4/21/2010 8:54:39 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

>folk.devil at hotmail.com writes:

>

>That guy in the interview is a bit mental, really. 

> 

> 

>> From: planetary at socal.rr.com

>> To: gathering at misera.net

>> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 08:48:12 -0700

>> Subject: [kj] (OT) The Religion of Peace, Love and Understanding

>> 

>>

>http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/showbiz/2010/04/21/ac.griffin.south.pa

r

>k.threat.cnn?hpt=C2

>> 

>> "A radical Islamic website warns the creators of "South Park" after the

>Prophet Mohammed was featured on the show."

>> 

>> Yeah, look out for those evil cartoons mocking your deity, you stone age

>fucks. 

>> 

>> T.B.

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