[kj] (OT) The Religion of Peace, Love and Understanding
Alexander Smith
vassifer at earthlink.net
Thu May 6 22:21:49 EDT 2010
Sez you, "dude."
Alex in NYC
On May 6, 2010, at 8:40 PM, Bette Dillinger wrote:
>
> Asserting the absence of dogma only reinforces its viable and
> inexorable presence in everyday life, dude.
>
> Bette in Da Motor Citay
>
> From: vassifer at earthlink.net
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 20:19:18 -0400
> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The Religion of Peace, Love and Understanding
>
>
> "Isn't virulent atheism just as much an issue as virulent Christian
> Fundamentalism?"
>
> I'll take the absence of dogma over the enforcement of dogma every
> time.
>
> Alex in NYC
>
>
> On May 6, 2010, at 6:48 PM, Bette Dillinger wrote:
>
> Isn't virulent atheism just as much an issue as virulent Christian
> Fundamentalism? And I triple dare Mr Dawkins to do the same with
> Islam. I have no vested interest in any point of view, so I will
> just pop the popcorn and watch the fireworks.
>
> Fundamentalism of any kind is the sign of a fundamentally disturbed
> mind.
>
>
>
> > From: vassifer at earthlink.net
> > To: phil.tofield at virgin.net; gathering at misera.net
> > Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 19:08:54 -0400
> > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The Religion of Peace, Love and Understanding
> >
> >
> > That's awesome.
> >
> > Alex in NYC
> >
> >
> > On May 5, 2010, at 7:50 AM, phil wrote:
> >
> > > http://store.richarddawkins.net/products/the-god-delusion-t-shirt
> > >
> > > I want one
> > >
> > > On Wed, 5 May 2010 08:04:45 +1000, you wrote:
> > >
> > >> The Bible is totally twisted to begin with, here’s a quote which
> > >> sums it up better than anything else:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant
> > >> character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty,
> unjust,
> > >> unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic
> > >> cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal,
> > >> genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal,
> > >> sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
> > >> ] On Behalf Of Karen Weil
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, 5 May 2010 3:10 AM
> > >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> > >> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The Religion of Peace, Love and
> Understanding
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Good point. There are plenty who twist the Bible to suit their
> own
> > >> beliefs.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> k.w.
> > >>
> > >> the States
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>
> > >> From: Jim Harper <mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>
> > >>
> > >> To: A list about <mailto:gathering at misera.net> all things Killing
> > >> Joke (the band!)
> > >>
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 2:32 AM
> > >>
> > >> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The Religion of Peace, Love and
> Understanding
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> By those standards, all Christians believe you can own slaves and
> > >> have more than one wife. But how many of them are bigamists and
> > >> slaveowners?
> > >>
> > >> --- On Mon, 3/5/10, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> 99% of muslims, by definition, believe in the subjugation of
> women,
> > >> deny the right of any other religion to exist, are against
> > >> democracy...etc. The idea that all of the harm is in the
> > >> fundamentalist fringe is outdated:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1452322/posts> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1452322/posts
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> So the mantra ‘Islam is peace’ is almost 1,400 years out of date.
> > >> It was only for about 13 years that Islam was peace and nothing
> but
> > >> peace. From 622 onwards it became increasingly aggressive, albeit
> > >> with periods of peaceful co-existence, particularly in the
> colonial
> > >> period, when the theology of war was not dominant. For today’s
> > >> radical Muslims — just as for the mediaeval jurists who developed
> > >> classical Islam — it would be truer to say ‘Islam is war’. One of
> > >> the most radical Islamic groups in Britain, al-Ghurabaa, stated
> in
> > >> the wake of the two London bombings, ‘Any Muslim that denies that
> > >> terror is a part of Islam is kafir.’ A kafir is an unbeliever
> > >> (i.e., a non-Muslim), a term of gross insult.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
> > >> ] On Behalf Of Karen Weil
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, 4 May 2010 5:16 AM
> > >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> > >> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The Religion of Peace, Love and
> Understanding
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Unfortunately, while 99 percent of Muslims mean no one any harm,
> > >> it's vicious cretins like this guy who continue to fan the flames
> > >> of xenophobia, suspicion and irrational hatred of their faith by
> > >> those of other religions, ethnic groups, etc.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> k.w.
> > >>
> > >> SoCal
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>
> > >> From: <http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=LONESTYLE@aol.com
> > >> > LONESTYLE at aol.com
> > >>
> > >> To: <http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gathering@misera.net
> > >> > gathering at misera.net
> > >>
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 12:22 PM
> > >>
> > >> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The Religion of Peace, Love and
> Understanding
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> That guy is an asshole!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ~ LB
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> In a message dated 4/21/2010 8:54:39 A.M. Pacific Daylight
> Time, <http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=folk.devil@hotmail.com
> > >> > folk.devil at hotmail.com writes:
> > >>
> > >> That guy in the interview is a bit mental, really.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> From: <http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=planetary@socal.rr.com
> > >>> > planetary at socal.rr.com
> > >>> To: <http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gathering@misera.net
> > >>> > gathering at misera.net
> > >>> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 08:48:12 -0700
> > >>> Subject: [kj] (OT) The Religion of Peace, Love and Understanding
> > >>>
> > >>> http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/showbiz/2010/04/21/
> > >>> ac.griffin.south.park.threat.cnn?hpt=C2
> > >>>
> > >>> "A radical Islamic website warns the creators of "South Park"
> > >>> after the Prophet Mohammed was featured on the show."
> > >>>
> > >>> Yeah, look out for those evil cartoons mocking your deity, you
> > >>> stone age fucks.
> > >>>
> > >>> T.B.
> > >>>
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