[kj] [veryOT] New MIA Video
    Karen Weil 
    karen.weil at sddt.com
       
    Fri May  7 13:14:02 EDT 2010
    
    
  
Touche, Folk. You win the Friday Prize. 
Cheers,
k.w.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: folk devil 
  To: gathering at misera.net 
  Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 10:12 AM
  Subject: Re: [kj] [veryOT] New MIA Video
  Yes, but just like any other form of music.
   
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  From: karen.weil at sddt.com
  To: vassifer at earthlink.net; gathering at misera.net
  Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 10:10:39 -0700
  Subject: Re: [kj] [veryOT] New MIA Video
  Have to agree with Alex, especially about sampling. There's times when it's clever and works, and times when it's just plain lazy and uninventive. 
  K.W.
  SoCal
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Alex Smith 
    To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) ; gathering at misera.net 
    Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 9:59 AM
    Subject: Re: [kj] [veryOT] New MIA Video
    Surely you'll agree that there's a difference between imitating a guitar riff and LITERALLY USING SOMEONE ELSE'S RECORDING, no?
    Look, sampling's nothing new. I can name handfuls of acts from all over the spectrum -- from Timbaland through fuckin' Cop Shoot Cop -- who utilized the sampler in new, inventive and innovative ways, but when you're just using a repeated loop (like "Born Free," "Paper Planes" and -- WAIT FOR IT -- "U Can't Touch This"), it seems a bit lazy, no?
    And once again -- I much prefer MIA's music to Lady Gaga's, but my point was that she should tend to her own fuckin' garden before mouthing off about anyone else's.
    Alex in NYC
      -----Original Message----- 
      From: folk devil 
      Sent: May 7, 2010 12:10 PM 
      To: gathering at misera.net 
      Subject: Re: [kj] [veryOT] New MIA Video 
      I am also going to split hairs, but for how long have guitarists been doing 'variations' of a twelve bar in rock music?
      It was OK for the Rolling Stones to rip from LeadBelly endlessly, but as soon as the Verve take a rip from them, they sue.
      For me, it's the end sound that's important. Anything done to excess gets boring.
      Where 'guitar' music is in question, I am more likely to gravitate towards KJ, Radiohead or even Kasabian, as they actually tweek things into something slightly different..
       
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      From: vassifer at earthlink.net
      To: angrytomhanks at yahoo.com
      Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 06:55:18 -0400
      CC: gathering at misera.net
      Subject: Re: [kj] [veryOT] New MIA Video
      I'm familiar with it, thank, Leigh -- you cheeky monkey -- but this is coming off of recent comments wherein she tore the likes of Lady Gaga a new one for not being remotely original. Pardon me, but when you're sampling thirty-year old records, that hardly makes you a pioneer.
      Alex in NYC
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