[kj] (OT) The Religion of Peace, Love and Understanding

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Ha, good quotes, especially the middle one.

I *really* don't understand people who are so precious about their religion (or anything else, but usually religion) that it can't be criticised.  Uhhh, if it's strong, then it can probably survive a bit of robust argument.

Jamie






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From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' <gathering at misera.net>
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“It’s all too easy to mistake passion that can change its mind for fundamentalism, which never will.” 
 
“If I sound intemperate, it’s only because of the weird convention, almost universally accepted, that religious faith is uniquely privileged“
 
“Blasphemy is a victimless crime”
 
Dawkins 
 

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Jim Harper
Sent: Friday, 7 May 2010 10:23 PM
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The Religion of Peace, Love and Understanding

 



In other words:

 

"Being a fanatic is only a bad thing if you're wrong. And I'm right."

 

Thanks. 

 

The fallback position of the man who knows he can't prove his opinions: "But I'm right!"

 

Jim.

--- On Fri, 7/5/10, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:


Isn't virulent atheism just as much an issue as virulent Christian Fundamentalism?

 

No. Nothing like it. I’ve done both.

 
“When two points of view are expressed with equal force, the truth does not necessarily lie midway between them. It is possible for one side to be simply wrong. And that justifies passion on the other side”
 
Dawkins 1:18
 

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Bette Dillinger
Sent: Friday, 7 May 2010 9:02 AM
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The Religion of Peace, Love and Understanding

 
Really, your post is one of the few moderate, thoughtful posts I have read about Christianity on the Web!  I think the concepts such as "original sin" etc, are metaphors.  Taken out of context you can alter them to suit your personal level of need for control and submission or dominance.  But all books on spirituality ultimately have one theme.  That's why the "Founding Fathers" were deists, though of course I have views on that as well.  
 
What Cayce reading have you done?
 

From: humanhybrid666 at gmail.com
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 22:22:02 +1200
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The Religion of Peace, Love and Understanding

well, i've been rather anti-christian these last few years, very much so...altho, to me, divinity is everywhere...   

 

these last few weeks tho, i've been listening to 'the politically incorrect guide to the bible' which has opened my eyes to the fact that the christian mindset has given us many good things that society has benefited from... like the age of the magnacarta, and the attitudes of the american founding fathers who penned the declaration of independence ... i see how easy it is to slam the religious nutters, hardly a fair fight, but credit where its due, it has also had some positive effects on our unraveling culture.   (not that peace cant be achieved without the bible..)

 

there was one bit saying that those cultures that had large christian populations had more personal and political freedoms than those cultures with smaller christian based populations.. broke it down with numbers and stuff too...

 

to each their own, as long as the mind and the conscience are used...

 

 

i am very interested in the initial cause/concept of the twisted biblical story of original sin... i have my own idea's, influenced by some edgar cayce readings,  and i do think that it does refer to some actual relevant happening, but, who can know??  doesn't stop me pondering...

 

 

 

 

=)

 

 

 



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