[kj] London here comes the regularity!!
sade1
saulomar1 at yahoo.com
Mon Oct 4 19:07:14 EDT 2010
I find "This World Hell" to be more post-Democracy, Drug, or KJ2003-ish. It's
missing that urgency, that indignant sense of "fuck you, I mean it!" feel of
Extremities, Dirt, And Various Repressed Emotions.
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From: "LONESTYLE at aol.com" <LONESTYLE at aol.com>
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Mon, October 4, 2010 1:11:09 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] London here comes the regularity!!
That's true. World Hell is far from it.
~ LB
In a message dated 10/4/2010 10:07:20 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
vassifer at earthlink.net writes:
I don't really hear much in common particularly between "this World Hell" and
EXTREMITIES, really.
>
>
>Sent from my iPhone. Please forgive any typos. I'm still finding my way with the
>texting apparatus. - Alex
>
>On Oct 4, 2010, at 11:49 AM, jpwhkj at aol.com wrote:
>
>
>This World Hell: because I don't like it! And no, Extremities as a whole
>doesn't do much for me these days. I have very fond memories of it, because it
>was such a feckin relief after OTG (and the gigs were incredible - definitely
>one of the best KJ tours). But I don't play it often.
>>
>>Haven't listened to the tribute CD yet... but then the AD CD hasn't come out of
>>the CD player yet.
>>
>>Current overall fave: Here Comes the Singularity.
>>
>>Jamie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: andrew scott <brandymoth at yahoo.co.uk>
>>To: gathering at misera.net
>>Sent: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 15:43
>>Subject: Re: [kj] London here comes the regularity!!
>>
>>
>>Why are people slagging off This World Hell? Definitely one of my favourite
>>tracks on the LP. And at The Fleece came out really well, better than Great
>>Cull & Depthcharge I thought. Maybe u don't like Extremities either then which
>>to my mind is still their best work along with early stuff, ie1979-81. Having
>>heard the Tribute LP now as well, am very pleased with package as whole.
>>However nearly all the bands seemed to be playing the songs straight rather than
>>giving new take on them. Finnish language version interesting though, maybe we
>>need more foreign language versions. What happened to the grunting on Primitive
>>though? Shame. I must say that the Nouvelle Vague verson of Psyche was
>>somewhat different & interesting, if had been in pub may not have recognised it
>>as such unless concentrated on words. However without having checked out the
>>band, could it be another Cinema Bizzarro type genocidal crime?
>>
>>
>>The Fungus Moth.
>>
>>Challenging the Future.
>>
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>>> 1. Re: New KJ Bootleg From Amsterdam Sept 2010
>>> (gingoblin at easynet.co.uk)
>>> 2. Re: New KJ Bootleg From Amsterdam Sept 2010 (Rob Moss)
>>> 3. Re: New KJ Bootleg From Amsterdam Sept 2010
>>> (gingoblin at easynet.co.uk)
>>> 4. Re: New KJ Bootleg From Amsterdam Sept 2010
>>> (gingoblin at easynet.co.uk)
>>> 5. Spare London ticket (Matt Dunn)
>>> 6. Re: Spare London ticket (Jim Harper)
>>> 7. Re: New KJ Bootleg From Amsterdam Sept 2010 (LONESTYLE at aol.com)
>>> 8. Re: New KJ Bootleg From Amsterdam Sept 2010 (LONESTYLE at aol.com)
>>> 9. Re: Spare London ticket (Rob Moss)
>>> 10. Re: (OT) Now & Then (Brendan)
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>>>Message: 1
>>>Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2010 13:49:20 +0100
>>>From: gingoblin at easynet.co.uk
>>>Subject: Re: [kj] New KJ Bootleg From Amsterdam Sept 2010
>>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"
>>> <gathering at misera.net>
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>>>Looking forward to having a listen, thanks. Yeah, Geordie was way too low
>>>in the mix at the gig. It seemed to me more drums and vocals too high, than
>>>the bass, but we'll see. Some of the new songs seemed a little shaky too,
>>>but again, we'll see!
>>>
>>>Really looking forward to Edinburgh, and still loving the new album (apart
>>>from This World Hell!)
>>>
>>>Dave in... Edinburgh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>At 19:56 02/10/2010 -0700, you wrote:
>>>>sade1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Big thanks for this link; am downloading it now. In 12min 40secs. I will
>>>>enjoy them live. You da' Man!
>>>>
>>>>++++++++
>>>>
>>>>There's actually two recordings (this is one of them) from two different
>>>>tapers of this show and both are lossless audio. The big
>>>>complaint seems to be Geordie needs to be more prominent in the mix, he's
>>>>getting drowned out by Big Paul and Youth.
>>>>
>>>>T.B.
>>>>
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>>>Message: 2
>>>Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 14:31:35 +0100
>>>From: Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com>
>>>Subject: Re: [kj] New KJ Bootleg From Amsterdam Sept 2010
>>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>>> <gathering at misera.net>
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>>>So many sound engineers do that. It's incredible the amount of times it's
>>>happened to us but also at gigs I've paid to see.
>>>
>>>
>>>I presume they're using their own man?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On 3 Oct 2010, at 13:49, gingoblin at easynet.co.uk wrote:
>>>
>>>> Looking forward to having a listen, thanks. Yeah, Geordie was way too low in
>>>>the mix at the gig. It seemed to me more drums and vocals too high, than the
>>>>bass, but we'll see. Some of the new songs seemed a little shaky too, but again,
>>>>we'll see!
>>>>
>>>> Really looking forward to Edinburgh, and still loving the new album (apart from
>>>>This World Hell!)
>>>>
>>>> Dave in... Edinburgh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 19:56 02/10/2010 -0700, you wrote:
>>>>> sade1 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Big thanks for this link; am downloading it now. In 12min 40secs. I will enjoy
>>>>>them live. You da' Man!
>>>>>
>>>>> ++++++++
>>>>>
>>>>> There's actually two recordings (this is one of them) from two different tapers
>>>>>of this show and both are lossless audio. The big
>>>>> complaint seems to be Geordie needs to be more prominent in the mix, he's
>>>>>getting drowned out by Big Paul and Youth.
>>>>>
>>>>> T.B.
>>>>>
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>>>Message: 3
>>>Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2010 16:26:35 +0100
>>>From: gingoblin at easynet.co.uk
>>>Subject: Re: [kj] New KJ Bootleg From Amsterdam Sept 2010
>>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"
>>> <gathering at misera.net>
>>>Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20101003162409.02e01d40 at pop3.easynet.co.uk>
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>>>I would hope they're using their own soundman, but you never know! Was
>>>speaking to someone the next night who said they spent the whole gig trying
>>>to get the guy to turn Geordie up! Don't think they succeeded
>>>though! Gonna have a listen now and see!
>>>
>>>Dave in Edinburgh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>At 14:31 03/10/2010 +0100, you wrote:
>>>>So many sound engineers do that. It's incredible the amount of times it's
>>>>happened to us but also at gigs I've paid to see.
>>>>
>>>>I presume they're using their own man?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On 3 Oct 2010, at 13:49, gingoblin at easynet.co.uk wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Looking forward to having a listen, thanks. Yeah, Geordie was way too
>>>> low in the mix at the gig. It seemed to me more drums and vocals too
>>>> high, than the bass, but we'll see. Some of the new songs seemed a little
>>>> shaky too, but again, we'll see!
>>>> >
>>>> > Really looking forward to Edinburgh, and still loving the new album
>>>> (apart from This World Hell!)
>>>> >
>>>> > Dave in... Edinburgh
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > At 19:56 02/10/2010 -0700, you wrote:
>>>> >> sade1 wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Big thanks for this link; am downloading it now. In 12min 40secs. I
>>>> will enjoy them live. You da' Man!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ++++++++
>>>> >>
>>>> >> There's actually two recordings (this is one of them) from two
>>>> different tapers of this show and both are lossless audio. The big
>>>> >> complaint seems to be Geordie needs to be more prominent in the mix,
>>>> he's getting drowned out by Big Paul and Youth.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> T.B.
>>>> >>
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>>>Message: 4
>>>Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2010 17:18:13 +0100
>>>From: gingoblin at easynet.co.uk
>>>Subject: Re: [kj] New KJ Bootleg From Amsterdam Sept 2010
>>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"
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>>>Definitely too quiet on the guitar front. In fact, now I recall, the whole
>>>gig was too quiet! People shouldn't be able to talk!
>>>
>>>
>>>At 19:56 02/10/2010 -0700, you wrote:
>>>>sade1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Big thanks for this link; am downloading it now. In 12min 40secs. I will
>>>>enjoy them live. You da' Man!
>>>>
>>>>++++++++
>>>>
>>>>There's actually two recordings (this is one of them) from two different
>>>>tapers of this show and both are lossless audio. The big
>>>>complaint seems to be Geordie needs to be more prominent in the mix, he's
>>>>getting drowned out by Big Paul and Youth.
>>>>
>>>>T.B.
>>>>
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>>>Message: 5
>>>Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 19:48:38 +0100
>>>From: "Matt Dunn" <mattdunn at ntlworld.com>
>>>Subject: [kj] Spare London ticket
>>>To: <gathering at misera.net>
>>>Message-ID: <000001cb632b$976d5720$c6480560$@com>
>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>>A mate has let me down so I have a spare ticket for London on the 16th if
>>>anyone is interested? I'd just like to get my money back if possible (I'll
>>>cover the booking fee).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Please contact me off list.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Matt
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>>>Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 19:15:00 +0000 (GMT)
>>>From: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>
>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Spare London ticket
>>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"
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>>>I may also have a london ticket available. Got dragged in for emergency surgery
>>>and probably won't be in any fit shape for the gig, something I am most
>>>definitetly not happy about.
>>>?
>>>Jim.
>>>
>>>--- On Sun, 3/10/10, Matt Dunn <mattdunn at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>From: Matt Dunn <mattdunn at ntlworld.com>
>>>Subject: [kj] Spare London ticket
>>>To: gathering at misera.net
>>>Date: Sunday, 3 October, 2010, 19:48
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>A mate has let me down so I have a spare ticket for London on the 16th if anyone
>>>is interested? I?d just like to get my money back if possible (I?ll cover the
>>>booking fee).
>>>?
>>>Please contact me off list.
>>>?
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>>>Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 16:10:00 EDT
>>>From: LONESTYLE at aol.com
>>>Subject: Re: [kj] New KJ Bootleg From Amsterdam Sept 2010
>>>To: gathering at misera.net
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>>>The sound isn't bad.... It's just that you can hear people talking here and
>>>there.
>>>
>>>~ LB
>>>
>>>
>>>In a message dated 10/2/2010 7:57:05 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>>>planetary at socal.rr.com writes:
>>>
>>>sade1 wrote:
>>>
>>>Big thanks for this link; am downloading it now. In 12min 40secs. I will
>>>enjoy them live. You da' Man!
>>>
>>>++++++++
>>>
>>>There's actually two recordings (this is one of them) from two different
>>>tapers of this show and both are lossless audio. The big
>>>complaint seems to be Geordie needs to be more prominent in the mix, he's
>>>getting drowned out by Big Paul and Youth.
>>>
>>>T.B.
>>>
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>>>Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 16:17:31 EDT
>>>From: LONESTYLE at aol.com
>>>Subject: Re: [kj] New KJ Bootleg From Amsterdam Sept 2010
>>>To: gathering at misera.net
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>>>Yes, the talking is a bit too much.
>>>
>>>~ LB
>>>
>>>
>>>In a message dated 10/3/2010 9:18:20 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>>>gingoblin at easynet.co.uk writes:
>>>
>>>Definitely too quiet on the guitar front. In fact, now I recall, the whole
>>>gig was too quiet! People shouldn't be able to talk!
>>>
>>>
>>>At 19:56 02/10/2010 -0700, you wrote:
>>>>sade1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Big thanks for this link; am downloading it now. In 12min 40secs. I will
>>>>enjoy them live. You da' Man!
>>>>
>>>>++++++++
>>>>
>>>>There's actually two recordings (this is one of them) from two different
>>>>tapers of this show and both are lossless audio. The big
>>>>complaint seems to be Geordie needs to be more prominent in the mix, he's
>>>>getting drowned out by Big Paul and Youth.
>>>>
>>>>T.B.
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 21:16:47 +0100
>>>From: Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com>
>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Spare London ticket
>>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
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>>>Get well soon Jim!!
>>>Sorry to hear that.
>>>
>>>On 3 Oct 2010, at 20:15, Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I may also have a london ticket available. Got dragged in for emergency surgery
>>>>and probably won't be in any fit shape for the gig, something I am most
>>>>definitetly not happy about.
>>>>
>>>> Jim.
>>>>
>>>> --- On Sun, 3/10/10, Matt Dunn <mattdunn at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From: Matt Dunn <mattdunn at ntlworld.com>
>>>> Subject: [kj] Spare London ticket
>>>> To: gathering at misera.net
>>>> Date: Sunday, 3 October, 2010, 19:48
>>>>
>>>> A mate has let me down so I have a spare ticket for London on the 16th if
>>>>anyone is interested? I?d just like to get my money back if possible (I?ll cover
>>>>the booking fee).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please contact me off list.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 10:46:50 +1300 (NZDT)
>>>From: "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
>>>Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Now & Then
>>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"
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>>>Ill design it. 100% of the time it'd return the answer:
>>>
>>>"She's a lying slut"
>>>
>>>It'd be accurate most of the time, and ther rest of the time it'd be a
>>>great conversation starter.
>>>
>>>> Is there an app for my phone that I can hold up to a girl (profile, back
>>>> or
>>>> front??view) that will tell you her name, age, measurements??and address,
>>>> preferences,??relevant experience, 'resume' '??and will also download
>>>> her??entire
>>>> past??and present dating history and internet footprint?
>>>> And what kind of food she likes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ??
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com>
>>>> To: Gathering Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
>>>> Sent: Wed, September 29, 2010 10:35:30 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Now & Then
>>>>
>>>> My gf has that app for her iPhone. The depth of catalog is astounding and
>>>> it
>>>> even differentiates between the Peel Sessions KJ disc and the original
>>>> issues.
>>>> ??
>>>> It's a real blow to us music nerds who used to be able to impress women
>>>> with our
>>>> vast musical knowledge and ability to beat everyone in the record store at
>>>> "Name
>>>> That Tune."
>>>>
>>>> I know. What's a record store?
>>>> ??
>>>> ??
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: folk.devil at hotmail.com
>>>> To: gathering at misera.net
>>>> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:29:30 -0700
>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Now & Then
>>>>
>>>> I forwarded this to a friend, and this is the reply I got;
>>>> "A friend of mine doesn???t google the 2 lines he remembers, he holds his
>>>> iPhone
>>>> to the radio and it tells him the band, song name and album in about 5-10
>>>> seconds!"
>>>> ??
>>>>
>>>> ??
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 15:35:26 +0100
>>>> From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk
>>>> To: gathering at misera.net
>>>> Subject: [kj] (OT) Now & Then
>>>>
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