[kj] So new album..where does it stand
sade1
saulomar1 at yahoo.com
Fri Sep 10 20:54:16 EDT 2010
Seriously, I think the new stuff sounds like it could play really well on
NPR-type stations. Here in Los Angeles there is KCRW and I really think it
would fit well in their playlists (say, on Morning Becomes Eclectic;
Jason Bentley's nighttime show) and in their artist showcases that they
have regularly. European Super State sounds great for that. Sounds like
it's perfect (w/a little Youthful tweaking) for the clubs too.
Fresh Fever (and ESS) could definitely play well on Comm-Pop Radio.
Then again, I don't know.. I just DL'd the album so I haven't been able to
consider the other gems.
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From: GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com>
To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 5:12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] So new album..where does it stand
I think we should start a phone-in campaign in all our US cities to get "ESS"
played on the commercial "alternative" radio stations. That is, if they release
the thing in the US...
> From: Peter.Lamb at nottingham.edu.cn
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 07:32:48 +0800
> Subject: [kj] So new album..where does it stand
>
> It is wthout doubt a fine record and has some moments that get close to the
>original feel.
> Although there's no tribal drumming, BPF is innovative and the patterns are
>interesting. Ceratainly he's not the quickest or heaviest drummer but he is BPF
>and in my mind brings something that makes a difference. He is BPF afterall, say
>no more.
>
> The Great Cull is going to knacker all of us when we hear it live-thank God!
>
> The Raven King reminds me a bit of the Chameleons a bit - but it cetainly gets
>to you.
>
> I like it all- it comes togther as whole really well and it is a pleasure to
>hear Jaz sing again.
>
> An excellent last hurrah?
>
> Cheers,
> Peter
>
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> 1. Re: So new album..where does it stand (Leigh Newton)
> 2. Re: So new album..where does it stand (Alex Smith)
> 3. Re: Warm up show at the Fleece?? Now Tangerine Dream (Paul Wady)
> 4. Re: So new album..where does it stand (TB)
> 5. Re: You are a thief (sade1)
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> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:06:50 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Leigh Newton <angrytomhanks at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [kj] So new album..where does it stand
> To: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>, "A list about all things
> Killing Joke \(the band!\)" <gathering at misera.net>
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> Honour the Fire is definitely a contender for?a bit of filler. Not a terrible
> song though. Also there's Depthcharge, which is good but reminds me of Another
> Bloody Election (a song I'd rather not be reminded of).
>
>
> The album, as a whole, is really great. It sounds cohesive and deliberate, in
> direct contrast to Hosannas which sounds exactly like a bunch of jam sessions
> that got pieced together?by some poor bastard of an engineer. The Great Cull,
> whilst being one of the heavier tracks on the album, wouldn't sound out of
>place
> at all on Night Time (if you use your imagination a little bit). It's got that
> Tabazan/Europe vibe to it. A?few of the songs that we heard seperately and
> seemed a little lacklustre make a lot more sense in the context of the album,
> Fresh?Fever being the?best example of that. Here Comes the Singularity is
> another awesome number and probably the closest the album comes to the
"classic
> sound".
>
>
> What's weird to me is that?while several songs on the album?do sound a little
> like classic KJ, none of them?really sound like?classic Youth-era KJ. Weird.
> ?
> Leigh
>
> --
>
> http://www.nightruiner.com
> http://www.tstat.org
> http://www.myspace.com/streetmeatmusic
> http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale
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> From: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>;
> gathering <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 4:18:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [kj] So new album..where does it stand
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>
> I like "Depthcharge," but it did seem a bit reminiscent of, say, "Asteroid."
>Not
> a bad thing, but no ground broken.
> Here's a bold thread. Least favorite song on new album?
>
> I'll say "Honour the Fire."
> ?
> Yours?
> ?
> Alex in NYC
>
>
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> >From: GREG SLAWSON
> >Sent: Sep 10, 2010 3:07 PM
> >To: gathering
> >Subject: Re: [kj] So new album..where does it stand
> >
> >My take on the album (listened to on crappy computer):
> >Great, except for--
> >This World Hell & Depthcharge: kind of dull (mostly tuneless metal sludge)
> >Ghost of L.G.--quite dull (not as good as "Another Cult Goes Down" in terms
of
> >Joke-reggae)
> >?
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> From: Paul Wady <paulwady at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [kj] Warm up show at the Fleece?? Now Tangerine Dream
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> *Embarrassed* Erm...sorry, who? *blush*
> Better get on Myspace fast!
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> From: folk.devil at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.net
> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:40:37 -0700
> Subject: Re: [kj] Warm up show at the Fleece?? Now Tangerine Dream
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> I bet you like Rubicon and Phaedra, though ;)
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> From: paulwady at hotmail.com
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 10:53:06 +0100
> Subject: Re: [kj] Warm up show at the Fleece?? Now Ultravox
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> Could never appreciate Can & Tangerine Dream though. *Gasp!*
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> From: "TB" <planetary at socal.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [kj] So new album..where does it stand
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> Alex Smith wrote:
>
> I like "Depthcharge," but it did seem a bit reminiscent of, say, "Asteroid."
>Not a bad thing, but no ground broken.
> Here's a bold thread. Least favorite song on new album?
>
> I'll say "Honour the Fire."
>
> Yours?
>
> Alex in NYC
>
> +++++++++++++++++++
>
> I agree. HTF is pretty generic sounding rawk to me. Instrumentally, it sounds
>like an out-take off Van Halen's "Balance" album.
>
> Otherwise, this album is more or less better than I really thought it'd be even
>after hearing some of the tracks over the last couple months. It comes together
>as a coherent album a lot better than I thought it would considering the
>different styles. I still get a sense there's at least three distinct periods
>over the past 18 months these songs can ber grouped into and not just
>stylistically, but a general "feel" in the music. For instance, "Fresh Fever"
>has a sharp, live in the studio feel to it where the listener can almost feel
>the newness of the band playing together again fresh off the reunion tour while
>HTF and Singularity notably feel a bit too labored over and sterile in
>comparison, something a band suffering from being cooped up in a studio too long
>would produce.
>
> But really, I am totally happy that not only did this lineup actually stick
>together to release a new album, but produced a record that I'd put up in the
>top 3 or 4 best albums they've ever released. I really hope they play at least
>2/3rds of the material live this tour.
>
> T.B.
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:33:42 -0700 (PDT)
> From: sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [kj] You are a thief
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"
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> Absolutely great suggestion! Irony of ironies thatthat?was the one project
that
> wasn't leaked.
>
> ?
> ?
> Any chance of Gems being leaked , at least this way those that have been
ripped
> off can get something back.
>
>
>
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> From: Simon Abinett <louiecipher33 at hotmail.com>
> To: killing joke message board <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 1:18:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [kj] You are a thief
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> ?
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> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:01:50 +0200
> From: rob.moss at gmx.com
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] You are a thief
>
>
> The album is going to be up on torrents anyway so the casual music fan will
> always get it.
> The way it was leaked was very much a case of "you have to be in the know". A
> random search via torrent sites showed nothing for weeks- I know cos I tried.
>
> As for Gems, it does exist! It materialised in as much as it was recorded and
> mastered. People were charged for something that was never delivered.
> The fact that it's not all that good doesn't come into it.
>
> Consider this one all Pete! The intention of everyone is to have a listen
prior
> to release and then buy it.
>
>
> Enjoy your travels. All power to you for talking the leap that so many of us
>are
> fearful of!
>
>
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> >From: F. Luke
> >Sent: 09/10/10 08:01 AM
> >To: gathering at misera.net
> >Subject: Re: [kj] You are a thief
> >
> >I ve left the U.K.?
> >I noticed that a lot of people seem to be dying , and it dawned on me that my
> >time will come soon, so I'll let those Eastern Europeans build the houses and
>I
> >packed up and am travelling around the World . I am going to find somewhere
>that
> >I like and live there . I may try to find a rainforest in Indonesia that
>doesnt
> >have any large spiders , I f'kin hate spiders .
> >
> >? Anyway , I agree that most people on the Gathering will buy the album , but
> >the casual music fan may just download it and not bother buying it upon its
> >release .
> >Gems of power and cancelled gigs are not deliberate acts of theft , they are
> >projects that didnt materialise . The original intention wasnt to steal or to
> >deceive . Unlike the taking of the music, which is deliberately taking
>something
> >that you have no right to take .
> >???
> >?
> >?
> >?
> >________________________________
> From: rob.moss at gmx.com
> >Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 07:42:37 +0100
> >To: gathering at misera.net
> >Subject: Re: [kj] You are a thief
> >
> >
> >Pete!
> >
> >
> >Wondered where you were! Spectacular re-entry frothing at the mouth.?
> >
> >
> >Every fuckers gonna buy this. You know it!
> >
> >
> >By the way, when you talk about thievery in the future think about Gems
> >Of Power and all the money wasted on cancelled gigs.?
> >
> >
> >Copy us in your email to the band won't you?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Back on your horse! Giddy up!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On 10 Sep 2010, at 07:34, "F. Luke" <fluke1 at live.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >
> >? "THIS asks for NO info and you just download...like it should be."?
> >>?
> >>?
> >>?
> >>?? If the band do not recuperate the monies spent on recording the album,
>then
> >>who do you suggest should pay for the expense of making the album, let alone
>the
> >>band receiving money in order to venture into any more projects .
> >>
> >>?? Why do you feel that you have the right to obtain something for free ?
> >>Whoever put it on rapidshare has done a huge disservice to the band , it was
> >>previously taken down for a reason and people should have respected this .
> >>Would you feel happy if you spent over a year creating something that cost a
>lot
> >>of time and effort and expense and when you had completed it, people just
>came
> >>and took it without paying you for your work ?
> >>??Its similar to walking down a street, seeing a new house and saying "That
> >>looks nice, I'm going to go and live there", jumping over the wall and then
> >>going to live there.
> >>The album isnt yours to either give away for free or to download for free .
> >>It is like stealing from family members .
> >>?
> >>________________________________
> From: alexih at hotmail.com
> >>To: gathering at misera.net
> >>Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 02:37:42 +0000
> >>Subject: Re: [kj] In Excelcis leaked - Not up anymore!
> >>
> >>??? THANK YOU Phil!? I just got WAY overcharged for the Soulseek thing and
> >>couldn't find what I was looking for at all.? THIS asks for NO info and you
>just
> >>download...like it should be.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>?
> >>Sprinting along the freeway, brandishing a meaty axe, cometh Alexi! And she
> >>gives a bloodthirsty scream:
> >>
> >>"Brace yourself, oh human speck of dust! I bring darkness and mayhem like a
> >>four-year-old on a sugar rampage!!!"??
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>?
> >>________________________________
> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 19:11:33 +0100
> >>From: phil.tofield at virgin.net
> >>To: gathering at misera.net
> >>Subject: Re: [kj] In Excelcis leaked - Not up anymore!
> >>
> >>
> >>heres another download link
> >>
> >>http://rapidshare.com/files/418088968/KJ-absolute_dissent.zip.html
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>?
> >>On 9 September 2010 17:05, Javier Garcia <jagargal at lycos.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>The file is no longer there. One day out of this mailing list and what kind
>of
> >>material you may loose!!
> >>
> >>>
> >>>I solemnly promise -my right hand on my heart- i?ll buy the new record and
>the
> >>>singles surrounding this new release.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Now: Could anybody help me here!?!?
> >>>
> >>>All these past days I was thinking not download, not even listen, any more
>new
> >>>tracks, in order to get an actual real "new CD"; but i really hate to read
>all
> >>>your posts and have no idea of what you?re talking about. Bring it on
>please!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Javier
> >>>mexico city
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