[kj] ESS

[Rob Moss]

Rather the dirt and honesty of Hosannas over the schmaltz of syrup of BTATS any day. 
That said, I love both albums. 

Remember. A bad Killing Joke album will always win over most of the shite out there!!!

On 18 Sep 2010, at 17:43, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:


> 

> I remember being somewhat aghast upon my first taste of BTATS (that being the "Adorations" single). Not only did they look vaguely Romo on the cover, but as Greg points out, there was a good deal of synth syrup splattered all over the proceedings. Still, I do think BTATS has stood well over the years.

> 

> It feels entirely strange to compare HOSANNAS with BTATS. Two different eras. Practically two different bands, although, I guess technically, the absence of Big Paul is the only difference in line-up. 

> 

> I'll take BTATS over HOSANNAS every time. The reason? There are at least actual SONGS on BTATS, not just extended jams sessions with Jaz bellowing over the top.

> 

> Alex in NYC

> 

> 

> 

> On Sep 18, 2010, at 12:02 PM, GREG SLAWSON wrote:

> 

>> Yes, it usually is Alex!

>> I know people don't like the production on Hossanas, but i'd rather have that than they synth-drenched sugar coating on BTATS, which makes The Killers sound like Motorhead.

>>  

>> From: vassifer at earthlink.net

>> To: gathering at misera.net

>> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 07:41:46 -0400

>> Subject: Re: [kj] ESS

>> 

>> 

>> "decent nu-metal tunes"

>> 

>> Isn't that kind of an oxymoron?

>> 

>> Alex in NYC

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> On Sep 18, 2010, at 12:35 AM, GREG SLAWSON wrote:

>> 

>> I've always thought of Hossanas as the real "KJ for Beginners". It sort of covers lots of the bands sounds and styles (w/the exception of their late 80s New Romanic wannabe phase), with a couple of

>> decent nu-metal tunes thrown in (I think Implosion and the title track are pretty good). True, the songs are too long and many are ripoffs of older songs (Walking With Gods was the new Change, Majestic the

>> new Intravenous, Invocation the new Communion, and Lightbringer sounded like a bunch of them). But I think it's pretty representative of the band, as is the new album, which also repeats older stuff a bit. And the 2 songs everyone likes,

>> Judas and Gratitude, bring back some of the uneasy weirdness of Revelations, and with a bigger sound. I think the main weakness of both Hosannas and KJ2003 are the lack of emotional depth of some of the earlier stuff. 

>>  

>> > From: planetary at socal.rr.com

>> > To: gathering at misera.net

>> > Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:59:10 -0700

>> > Subject: Re: [kj] ESS

>> > 

>> > Alexander Smith wrote:

>> > 

>> > Listened to it on the way home from work today -- and, by george, you're absolutely right. Better than I remembered as well.

>> > 

>> > That said, I also listened to HOSANNAS in its unwieldy entirety quite recently too. Sadly, my impression of it has not softened with

>> > age. While I like bits of "Implosion" and "Majestic," I still think it's my least favorite album. Better than COURTAULD TALKS , I

>> > suppose, but less intriguing than OTG (the myriad flaws of which still compel me to re-visit).

>> > 

>> > Alex in NYC

>> > 

>> > +++++++++++

>> > 

>> > Interesting in that I've been giving Hosannas as well as Democracy listens lately during long drives (I can't even listen to OTG)

>> > and aside from Judas Goat and Gratitude, and if anything, my attitude towards HFTBOH has hardened. There's really nothing I can say

>> > I like about the album aside from those two tracks which aren't that great to begin with. And every time I hear Lightbringer, I

>> > laugh - it's one of the band's goofiest songs and recalls that YouTube video of the long haired guy pretending to be Jaz.

>> > 

>> > T.B.

>> > 

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