[kj] New Interview with Jaz Wherein He Discourses at Length on a Variety ...

[Devacor at aol.com]

I really don’t  see how calling out the federal reserve issue is a "loon" 
flag or topic- -  What are you basing that on? Do you have some other 
information you would  like to share on the subject? It doesn’t have to be ones cup 
of tea, but  it’s a valid topic.  
"If the American  People knew exactly how the monetary and banking system 
worked, there  would be a revolution before tomorrow morning"   Abraham  
Lincoln.  
I’m not nec into  glen beck at all (a mainstream alex jones clone that's 
not worth lumping  together with alex jones) and im not so into the delivery 
of Alex Jones,  but to just downplay what Jones say and pigeon hole it as 
nutter,  paranoid, conspiracy etc is well- ill let the quote speak. 
"Condemnation  without investigation is the height of ignorance" - albert einstien   
but unless  you've thoroughly investigated these area and have opposing 
views based on  facts and research on alex jones topics, then that's cool. but 
all this  labeling and pigeonholing seems to be the antithesis of punk rock. 
  
with some of  Jaz' and the bands moves early on, they were very young, 
extremely  intelligent,  drugs and having ego constantly fed in a rock star  
fashion. Given this combo it led to some hyper focusing and extreme  thinking. 
It easy to label him a ‘nutter’ after that and even now.   
But his general ideology was/is no  different then top (ivy league and/or 
highly educated) top advisors,  mentors, persons high up in politics, 
business leaders, and public figures  I know. 
To mention the  word ‘conspiracy theory’  or  theorist’ in regard to a 
topic or person is the same as like saying ‘the  in laws’ – it draws up a 
certain connotation , but has nothing to do with  the actual case to case 
instance- its an easy way to dismiss things and  push things aside that one doesn’
t want to take the mental time to  investigate- but what is that based on – 
our ‘left wing box’ , ‘right wing  box’, ‘punk box’ , ‘skinhead box’ , ‘
old school box’  hipster box’, ‘jock box’ –   
So lets try to  not throw baby (topics) out with the bathwater ( persons 
who are relaying  the info) and lets try to think outside these boxes…     
one of the most  intelligent things someone can utter 'hmm, i dunno- I 
havent looked into  that topic deeply enough to have an opinion one way or  
another..." 
Adam
 
 


 
In a message dated 4/7/2011 11:28:51 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
b.oliver.sheppard at gmail.com writes:

Yeah, I know he's a nutter, pretty much. (Oddly likable  anyway, for me, 
though. - I have the Geordie attitude of "What will you  do this one?" about 
him :) )) The "green" stuff isn't new --  permaculture, etc. But he's wed 
that to the survivalist/gold bug nuttery  that is common currency on the US 
conspiranoid right, right now, thanks  in large part to Glenn Beck and Alex 
Jones. Maybe he's unaware that's  the discourse in the States -- insisting on 
hard currency is basically  waving your Ron Paul/Glenn Beck loon flag, here, 
in line with having a  hard on for the Federal Reserve -- but to an ear 
saturated in current US  political arguments, it sounds almost Tea Party-esque, 
like waiting to  demand proof of Obama's birth  certificate.

-0liver



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