[kj] How About Martin Atkins?

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On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Dominico C <dominicoc at hotmail.com> wrote:


> Damn... Would have loved to see Martin Atkins play this tour...!!

>

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>  1. Re: How About Martin Atkins? (Simon Abinett)

>  2. Re: New Interview with Jaz Wherein He Discourses at Length on

>     a Variety ... (Devacor at aol.com)

>  3. Jaz on 6Music now (Paul Rangecroft)

>  4. Forget that (Paul Rangecroft)

>  5. Re: (OT) Remix . . . (fatpotanga)

>  6. Re: (OT) Remix . . . (Tabazan)

>  7. Re: New Interview with Jaz Wherein He Discourses at Length on

>     a Variety ... (sade1)

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> Message: 1

> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 12:33:51 +0000

> From: Simon Abinett <louiecipher33 at hotmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [kj] How About Martin Atkins?

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> A real shame Mr Atkins is not on board but maybe there is still hope for

> the future now the band know he is up  for it.

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> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 23:41:30 -0400

> From: soundmagick at gmail.com

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] How About Martin Atkins?

>

> BETTER BE danny fucking carey or else im gonna start typing in mega uber

> caps!

>

>

> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Cliff Livingston <cliffmonk at gmail.com>

> wrote:

>

> OK got word that KJ will announce the tour drummer sometime soon,and i

> tried to get Atkins the gig,butthe band already had someone in

> mind.Cheers,CliffMonk

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> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 4:01 PM, folk devil <folk.devil at hotmail.com> wrote:

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> I guess I'm a minority here, but I would rather he did not.

> And true, nothing mentioned from Camp Joke.

> The Pandemonium drummer, Dugmore?, held it down alright. Or was it a

> compootah?

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>

>

> From: jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 20:13:11 +0000

> Subject: Re: [kj] How About Martin Atkins?

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> Steady on, he's NOT joining Killing Joke yet, and i very much doubt that he

> will.

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> fucking shittinng hell this news about my boss MA JOINING FORCES WITH KJ

> AGAIN HAS MY SOUL AFLAME WITH MARTIAN INVISIBLE THETAWAVES OF DRACONIC LOVE

> LIKE BLOOD FROM THE MOUTH OF INFINITY OR SOMETHING REDDER THAN EVEN FAFNIR'S

> SOUTHERN SISTER TIAMAT...

>

>

> I AM STUNNED

>

>

> FUCKING STUNNED

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>

> DC

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> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 2:23 PM, ADRIAN WASON <adrianwason at btinternet.com>

> wrote:

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> best news i've heard for ages if atkins is jumping on the stool. never

> forget the stripey jumper spit and SHEER MOTION AND NOISE.

>

> he helped picked the band up from the depths and  was part of them

> delivering the best ever album of all time and the best ever gigs.

>

> if atkins gets back youth needs to pass the flame on to........who knows

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> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 09:24:43 EDT

> From: Devacor at aol.com

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> your 'analogy' is just based on your own personal opinion and  speculation.

>

> sure it made news, as it was a 'story'

> But he won his election- once it was explained out it, people had an

> understanding of what he was actually saying- where one agrees with his

> stance

> or not, the sensationalism was taken out of it and it became a non  issue.

> something like george allen and his 'macaca' flap-- now that  was

> something else and he sunk faster then a rock in water. that was an  issue.

>  I'm not even saying im a Rand Paul supporter- im neutral on  him, and im

> about in the middle on his statement- but to make it into  something else

> is

> bogus.

>

> A

>

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 4/8/2011 9:30:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> saulomar1 at yahoo.com writes:

>

> Fire may be bad, it may be good, may be used to create warmth  BUT you

> never give the Pyro the Zippo.

>

> The only time you wink-wink & a nod-nod for the pyro to  be given the Zippo

> is if you want his Pyromanic  ass to have the Zippo, and of course it will

> always be in a  way that provides such enabler overly-intellectualized

> plausible  deniability:

>                             "What, me? Oh no, i never thought he'd start

> a fire -  again. Nooo... I just thought he should have the  same right to,

> and the actual hands-on empowerment therefrom, owning a  Zippo, like

> everyone

> else. (what can be wrong with that?).  I'm innocent."

>

>

> And the media did jump on it, at least the tv morning news  shows, the BBC

> tv news here in US, on En Contexto (tv), online it  was Cnn, Msnbc, BBC,

> Guardian, Truthout, ReaderSupportedNews, and i  think it may even have

> appeared

> on Deutsche Welle news.

> It got coverage, alright. And I don't recall nor even inferred  from the

> whole mess that it was ever dismissed as a  non-issue.

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> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 14:34:52 +0100

> From: Paul Rangecroft <paul.rangecroft at gmail.com>

> Subject: [kj] Jaz on 6Music now

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

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> http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0103qj1

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> missed the first half but it'll be on iPlayer soon enough.

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> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 14:42:31 +0100

> From: Paul Rangecroft <paul.rangecroft at gmail.com>

> Subject: [kj] Forget that

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

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> She's just said he couldn't make it. He was meant to be picking party

> songs!!! Probably just as well.

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> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 18:09:33 +0100

> From: fatpotanga <fatpotanga at gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Remix . . .

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> no, no, I meant you should get a job in HMV & stop dossing on your computer

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> On 9 Apr 2011, at 12:54, Tabazan wrote:

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>  >it's sinful you're not selling music [slaps marcs legs]

>>

>> But music should be free man!!

>>

>> (the chance would be a fine thing!)

>>

>> [rubs savlon on legs]

>>

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>

>

>

> --

> YAY SALE!

> http://www.iamscuzzy.com

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> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 20:26:55 +0100

> From: Tabazan <tabazan at gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Remix . . .

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

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> Want to buy some Justin Bieber CD's ?

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> On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 6:09 PM, fatpotanga <fatpotanga at gmail.com> wrote:

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>  no, no, I meant you should get a job in HMV & stop dossing on your

>> computer

>>

>>

>> On 9 Apr 2011, at 12:54, Tabazan wrote:

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>> > >it's sinful you're not selling music [slaps marcs legs]

>> >

>> > But music should be free man!!

>> >

>> > (the chance would be a fine thing!)

>> >

>> > [rubs savlon on legs]

>>

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>>

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>> --

>> YAY SALE!

>> http://www.iamscuzzy.com

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> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 13:10:35 -0700 (PDT)

> From: sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com>

> Subject: Re: [kj] New Interview with Jaz Wherein He Discourses at

> Length on a Variety ...

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> [BTW, if my earlier reply sounded pointedly personal, I apologize, it's

> just

> that I use "you" the way those 'other people over there' use "one". More

> appropriate, yep, but it's hard changing old patterns....)

>

>

>  ..your 'analogy' is just based on your own personal opinion and

>> speculation.

>>

> ?

> That statement, considering you are not aware of my knowledge-base for

> replying

> or the breadth of my awareness of the general issue of civil/equal/human

> rights,

> makes that statement above, ironically,?in effect strictly YOUR personal

> opinion

> AND speculation.? I'll assume then that all our opinions and speculations

> are

> worth acknowledging.

>

>

> Also, Victory, like Might, doesn't equate to Right.? What are you implying

> by

> "BUT he won..." So? The?number of people who liked him over the other guy

> was

> NEVER an issue, neither in my comments?nor in yours. So I don't get how his

> winning has anything to do with proving/validating/justifying/or-whatever

> re:

> his position on the?topics. Elections by definition are popularity contests

> ONLY. Nothing to do with how right/wrong a canditate's positions are.

>

> It's truly simple?the distillation of Randy's utterance: Govt. shouldn't

> act out

> its (meaning, OURS) racism in the public square, actions, programs,

> institutions, similar-&-etc. but private individuals, initiatives,

> policies, and

> concerns (meaning, everyone, and everywhere else not covered in Civil

> Rights Act

> -i.e. the public sphere, not just "private businesses")?should be allowed

> to

> make up their own mind on the matter, to follow whatever their biases beg

> and

> paw at the insides of their hosts'?chest cavities?for.

>

>

> As he stated that he prefers it, one way they (the "privates")?would be

> free

> to?make up their minds?would be for/on behalf of racism. He's against it,

> sure,

> he calls racist descrimination?" bad business" [an offensive and

> dismissive?trivialization, to be sure] "BUT." Enough said.? How manymore

> criminal or present-day-historical examples does one need to see that

> decentralizing the protections against racism?and discrimination is both

> giving

> permission to, and a ploy to get away with, local bigotries to have free

> rein.?

> Further, making it a local/state issue takes the a victim's right of

> redress

> further away from the federal court system and swerves it through the

> local/state courts, who are all the more steeped in the local culture and

> traditions that gave cause for such court actions in the first place!

>

>

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3O2rBz9gwo

>

>

> And in case you're tempted to think I'm speaking out of my ass, so to

> speak,

> well so IS HE! He says so himself! (2:03 of vid) Please don't hold me to?a

> different standard?than you do him.

>

> I'm just tired of bigoted pigs dressing up as lil'-innocent-"who, me?! Ah

> cood

> nevah..."-types trying to fuck the people the moment their trusting backs

> are

> turned.

>

>

> [This is really a nice thread to pursue because it really begins to expose

> the

> truest, most curdling?feelings behind different sides of the issue, the

> feelings

> that believers will really stand up and die for. Or that "some" ("Earl

> Grey,

> please; thank you.") will march in front of Barack, and his wife, and his

> children,?the dog, and the Capitol by the

> thousands-n'-thousands?with?machine

> guns, assault rifles,?and clips -?and some really stupid signs to boot!]

>

>

> ?

>

>

>

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> To: gathering at misera.net

> Sent: Sat, April 9, 2011 6:24:43 AM

> Subject: Re: [kj] New Interview with Jaz Wherein He Discourses at Length on

> a

> Variety ...

>

>

> your 'analogy' is just based on your own personal opinion and speculation.

>

> sure it made news, as it was a 'story'

> But he won his election- once it was explained out it, people had an

> understanding of what he was actually saying- where one agrees with his

> stance

> or not, the sensationalism was taken out of it and it became a non issue.

> ?something like george allen and his 'macaca' flap-- now that was something

> else

> and he sunk faster then a rock in water. that was an issue.

>

> ? I'm not even saying im a Rand Paul supporter- im neutral on him, and im

> about

> in the middle on his statement- but to make it into something else is

> bogus.

>

>

> A

>

>

> ?

> In a message dated 4/8/2011 9:30:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> saulomar1 at yahoo.com writes:

> Fire may be bad, it may be good, may be used to create warmth BUT you never

> give

> the Pyro the Zippo.

>

>

>> The only time you wink-wink & a nod-nod?for the pyro to be given?the Zippo

>> is if

>> you want his?Pyromanic ass?to have the Zippo, and of course?it will always

>> be in

>> a way that provides such enabler overly-intellectualized plausible

>> deniability:

>> ???????????????????????????? "What, me? Oh no, i never thought he'd starta

>> fire

>> - again. Nooo... I just thought he should have the same right to, and the

>> actual

>> hands-on empowerment therefrom, owning a Zippo, like everyone else. (what

>> can be

>> wrong with that?). I'm innocent."

>>

>>

>> And the media did jump on it, at least the tv morning news shows, the BBC

>> tv

>> news here in US, on?En Contexto (tv), online it was Cnn, Msnbc, BBC,

>> Guardian,

>> Truthout, ReaderSupportedNews, and i think it may even have appeared on

>> Deutsche

>> Welle news.

>> It got coverage, alright. And I don't recall nor even inferred from the

>> whole

>> mess that it was ever dismissed as a non-issue.

>>

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