[kj] Broken Britain
    fluke 1 
    fluke1 at live.co.uk
       
    Fri Aug 12 11:42:34 EDT 2011
    
    
  
The participants of the recent riots were not campaigning for pensioners heating allowances to be raised though .
The participants of the rioting were not monetary bankrupt, they were morally bankrupt .
Crap food is usually more expensive than healthy food , but its more convenient to buy unhealthy food than to cook healthy food.
Some OAPs may die every year through lack of heating, but the huge majority do not .
clothing and commodities have never been more affordable .
The U.K has a benefits system that provides for peoples basic needs .
42 inch flat screen TVS are not as basic need .
 
 
> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 15:41:00 +0100
> To: gathering at misera.net
> From: gingoblin at easynet.co.uk
> Subject: Re: [kj] Broken Britain
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> Sorry to hear this Paula... but I honestly don't think it can be said there 
> is no poverty in this country. Perhaps not in comparison to Africa or 
> something, but how about OAP's dying 'cos they can't afford to heat their 
> homes, people having to eat crap cos they can't afford decent food blah 
> blah blah. It IS there.
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> Totally can't be arsed getting into an argument with the (rather depressing 
> amount of) right-wingers on this list, not least because in my 15 years of 
> being on it I don't think I've ever seen the phrase "actually, that's a 
> fair point... you may be right" hahaha! But if we don't try and understand 
> the reasons for things happening, we'll never understand them.
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> I still go with
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> "Create a society that values material things above all else. Strip it of 
> industry. Raise taxes for the poor and reduce them for the rich and for 
> corporations. Prop up failed financial institutions with public money. Ask 
> for more tax, while vastly reducing public services. Put adverts 
> everywhere, regardless of people's ability to afford the things they 
> advertise. Allow the cost of food and housing to eclipse people's ability 
> to pay for them. Light blue touch paper."
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> that was posted the other day.
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> Anyway, I'm going to see Jerry Sadowitz tonight... he'll no doubt make me 
> feel better ;)
> 
> Dave in Edinburgh
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> >On 12 Aug 2011, at 11:25, Paula Cook wrote:
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> >I live in Ealing. The nearest the riots got to my home was about 200 
> >yards. I couldn't sleep Monday night with all the noise, sirens and 
> >helicopters. The next day, most of the town centre was cordoned off. I 
> >just couldn't believe the destruction. My hairdresser, beauty salon, 
> >corner shop, and all my other local shops had been attacked. A family 
> >member of the beauty salon's owner had been attacked trying to protect his 
> >business, his face a mass of cuts and bruises. Some people had been 
> >attacked in their homes and had to flee, their homes burnt out. Others had 
> >their cars burnt. Local people, including myself, were in a complete state 
> >of shock.
> >
> >I couldn't sleep Tuesday or Wednesday night because I was so frightened. 
> >I'm in my mid-40s, live alone, am 5'1" tall and under 9 stone - and I only 
> >have kitchen knives to protect myself against a mob invading my home.
> >
> >Gatherers, no disrespect to any one of you, but I don't want to hear any 
> >more excuses and justifications for this behaviour. There are none. London 
> >is a city of opportunity. There is NO poverty in this country, the welfare 
> >state ensures that. Poverty exists in parts of Asia, Africa and Latin 
> >America; I've seen the shanties of Guatemala City, Managua and Panama City 
> >with my own eyes, they are shocking, nothing like that here. We have it 
> >very good indeed in this country compared with most other countries.
> >
> >I want the full force of the law to come down on those responsible. I want 
> >the law, for which I pay through my taxes, to protect me and make me feel 
> >safe again in my own home. 3,000 police for 9 million Londoners is a joke, 
> >we need the 16,000 we've had in the past few days to become permanent. I 
> >would like to see a highly visible police presence in London from now on, 
> >police have been conspicuous by their absence for a long time now. We need 
> >the authorities to come down like a ton of bricks on all this "gangsta" 
> >culture, hoodies and suchlike. I don't want to live my life in fear.
> >
> >Stay safe Gatherers
> >Paula aka Nuclear Girl
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