[kj] Broken Britain

[fluke 1]

"Create a society that values material things above all else"
 
   I do not believe that Society does value material things above all else .
If you gave people an opportunity to go and live in a Palace alone with the Palace owner and you had to do whatever he said,  in the desert in Saudi Arabia and they could have every material goods they wished for , but on the condition that they do not leave the Palaces and they do not contact anyone , then I believe that very few people would take up the offer .
  
Which shows that people do not value material goods above all else .
 
 
 
 


> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 16:29:02 +0100

> To: gathering at misera.net

> From: gingoblin at easynet.co.uk

> Subject: Re: [kj] Broken Britain

> 

> Hha ha, DAMN YOU! I'm unsubscribing... this isn't what I joined this list 

> for!!!

> 

> 

> At 16:11 12/08/2011 +0100, you wrote:

> 

> >Actually Dave, that's a fair point, I think you may be right

> >

> >~:o)

> >

> >-----Original Message-----

> >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

> >On Behalf Of gingoblin at easynet.co.uk

> >Sent: 12 August 2011 15:41

> >To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> >Subject: Re: [kj] Broken Britain

> >

> >Sorry to hear this Paula... but I honestly don't think it can be said

> >there

> >is no poverty in this country. Perhaps not in comparison to Africa or

> >something, but how about OAP's dying 'cos they can't afford to heat

> >their

> >homes, people having to eat crap cos they can't afford decent food blah

> >blah blah. It IS there.

> >

> >Totally can't be arsed getting into an argument with the (rather

> >depressing

> >amount of) right-wingers on this list, not least because in my 15 years

> >of

> >being on it I don't think I've ever seen the phrase "actually, that's a

> >fair point... you may be right" hahaha! But if we don't try and

> >understand

> >the reasons for things happening, we'll never understand them.

> >

> >I still go with

> >

> >

> >{

> >

> >

> >}

> >

> >{

> >

> >

> >}

> >

> >"Create a society that values material things above all else. Strip it

> >of

> >industry. Raise taxes for the poor and reduce them for the rich and for

> >corporations. Prop up failed financial institutions with public money.

> >Ask

> >for more tax, while vastly reducing public services. Put adverts

> >everywhere, regardless of people's ability to afford the things they

> >advertise. Allow the cost of food and housing to eclipse people's

> >ability

> >to pay for them. Light blue touch paper."

> >

> >that was posted the other day.

> >

> >Anyway, I'm going to see Jerry Sadowitz tonight... he'll no doubt make

> >me

> >feel better ;)

> >

> >Dave in Edinburgh

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >On 12 Aug 2011, at 11:25, Paula Cook wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >I live in Ealing. The nearest the riots got to my home was about 200

> > >yards. I couldn't sleep Monday night with all the noise, sirens and

> > >helicopters. The next day, most of the town centre was cordoned off. I

> > >just couldn't believe the destruction. My hairdresser, beauty salon,

> > >corner shop, and all my other local shops had been attacked. A family

> > >member of the beauty salon's owner had been attacked trying to protect

> >his

> > >business, his face a mass of cuts and bruises. Some people had been

> > >attacked in their homes and had to flee, their homes burnt out. Others

> >had

> > >their cars burnt. Local people, including myself, were in a complete

> >state

> > >of shock.

> > >

> > >I couldn't sleep Tuesday or Wednesday night because I was so

> >frightened.

> > >I'm in my mid-40s, live alone, am 5'1" tall and under 9 stone - and I

> >only

> > >have kitchen knives to protect myself against a mob invading my home.

> > >

> > >Gatherers, no disrespect to any one of you, but I don't want to hear

> >any

> > >more excuses and justifications for this behaviour. There are none.

> >London

> > >is a city of opportunity. There is NO poverty in this country, the

> >welfare

> > >state ensures that. Poverty exists in parts of Asia, Africa and Latin

> > >America; I've seen the shanties of Guatemala City, Managua and Panama

> >City

> > >with my own eyes, they are shocking, nothing like that here. We have it

> >

> > >very good indeed in this country compared with most other countries.

> > >

> > >I want the full force of the law to come down on those responsible. I

> >want

> > >the law, for which I pay through my taxes, to protect me and make me

> >feel

> > >safe again in my own home. 3,000 police for 9 million Londoners is a

> >joke,

> > >we need the 16,000 we've had in the past few days to become permanent.

> >I

> > >would like to see a highly visible police presence in London from now

> >on,

> > >police have been conspicuous by their absence for a long time now. We

> >need

> > >the authorities to come down like a ton of bricks on all this "gangsta"

> >

> > >culture, hoodies and suchlike. I don't want to live my life in fear.

> > >

> > >Stay safe Gatherers

> > >Paula aka Nuclear Girl

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