[kj] Broken Britain - Some Things UN Said

[sade1]

The UN put out a report in 2007 saying something would happen. 
 
"If you want to know who saw it coming, UNICEF warned things weren't 
 looking good four years ago in 2007. 
 In a strongly worded report it claimed  that children growing up in the United 
 Kingdom suffer greater deprivation,  worse relationships with their parents 
 and are exposed to more risks from  alcohol, drugs and unsafe sex than those 
 in any other wealthy country in the world":  
 
"Postcode gangs...have joined together in an orgy of Blackberry messaging and 
 window-smashing and thus a subculture is created; an underbelly that finally has 
 a unified 'Us' to pit against the do-gooding 'Them.' 
 Civic emasculation knows no limits." 
http://www.truth-out.org/macroeconomics-london-riots/1313246528

 
From: GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com>
To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] Broken Britain


Agreed. Many business and psychology studies show similar results.
 

From: fluke1 at live.co.uk
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 08:05:38 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] Broken Britain


"Create a society that values material things above all else"
 
   I do not believe that Society does value material things above all else .
If you gave people an opportunity to go and live in a Palace alone with the Palace owner and you had to do whatever he said,  in the desert in Saudi Arabia and they could have every material goods they wished for , but on the condition that they do not leave the Palaces and they do not contact anyone , then I believe that very few people would take up the offer .
  
Which shows that people do not value material goods above all else .
 
 
 
 


> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 16:29:02 +0100

> To: gathering at misera.net

> From: gingoblin at easynet.co.uk

> Subject: Re: [kj] Broken Britain

> 

> Hha ha, DAMN YOU! I'm unsubscribing... this isn't what I joined this list 

> for!!!

> 

> 

> At 16:11 12/08/2011 +0100, you wrote:

> 

> >Actually Dave, that's a fair point, I think you may be right

> >

> >~:o)

> >

> >-----Original Message-----

> >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

> >On Behalf Of gingoblin at easynet.co.uk

> >Sent: 12 August 2011 15:41

> >To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> >Subject: Re: [kj] Broken Britain

> >

> >Sorry to hear this Paula... but I honestly don't think it can be said

> >there

> >is no poverty in this country. Perhaps not in comparison to Africa or

> >something, but how about OAP's dying 'cos they can't afford to heat

> >their

> >homes, people having to eat crap cos they can't afford decent food blah

> >blah blah. It IS there.

> >

> >Totally can't be arsed getting into an argument with the (rather

> >depressing

> >amount of) right-wingers on this list, not least because in my 15 years

> >of

> >being on it I don't think I've ever seen the phrase "actually, that's a

> >fair point... you may be right" hahaha! But if we don't try and

> >understand

> >the reasons for things happening, we'll never understand them.

> >

> >I still go with

> >

> >

> >{

> >

> >

> >}

> >

> >{

> >

> >

> >}

> >

> >"Create a society that values material things above all else. Strip it

> >of

> >industry. Raise taxes for the poor and reduce them for the rich and for

> >corporations. Prop up failed financial institutions with public money.

> >Ask

> >for more tax, while vastly reducing public services. Put adverts

> >everywhere, regardless of people's ability to afford the things they

> >advertise. Allow the cost of food and housing to eclipse people's

> >ability

> >to pay for them. Light blue touch paper."

> >

> >that was posted the other day.

> >

> >Anyway, I'm going to see Jerry Sadowitz tonight... he'll no doubt make

> >me

> >feel better ;)

> >

> >Dave in Edinburgh

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >On 12 Aug 2011, at 11:25, Paula Cook wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >I live in Ealing. The nearest the riots got to my home was about 200

> > >yards. I couldn't sleep Monday night with all the noise, sirens and

> > >helicopters. The next day, most of the town centre was cordoned off. I

> > >just couldn't believe the destruction. My hairdresser, beauty salon,

> > >corner shop, and all my other local shops had been attacked. A family

> > >member of the beauty salon's owner had been attacked trying to protect

> >his

> > >business, his face a mass of cuts and bruises. Some people had been

> > >attacked in their homes and had to flee, their homes burnt out. Others

> >had

> > >their cars burnt. Local people, including myself, were in a complete

> >state

> > >of shock.

> > >

> > >I couldn't sleep Tuesday or Wednesday night because I was so

> >frightened.

> > >I'm in my mid-40s, live alone, am 5'1" tall and under 9 stone - and I

> >only

> > >have kitchen knives to protect myself against a mob invading my home.

> > >

> > >Gatherers, no disrespect to any one of you, but I don't want to hear

> >any

> > >more excuses and justifications for this behaviour. There are none.

> >London

> > >is a city of opportunity. There is NO poverty in this country, the

> >welfare

> > >state ensures that. Poverty exists in parts of Asia, Africa and Latin

> > >America; I've seen the shanties of Guatemala City, Managua and Panama

> >City

> > >with my own eyes, they are shocking, nothing like that here. We have it

> >

> > >very good indeed in this country compared with most other countries.

> > >

> > >I want the full force of the law to come down on those responsible. I

> >want

> > >the law, for which I pay through my taxes, to protect me and make me

> >feel

> > >safe again in my own home. 3,000 police for 9 million Londoners is a

> >joke,

> > >we need the 16,000 we've had in the past few days to become permanent.

> >I

> > >would like to see a highly visible police presence in London from now

> >on,

> > >police have been conspicuous by their absence for a long time now. We

> >need

> > >the authorities to come down like a ton of bricks on all this "gangsta"

> >

> > >culture, hoodies and suchlike. I don't want to live my life in fear.

> > >

> > >Stay safe Gatherers

> > >Paula aka Nuclear Girl

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