[kj] rammstein-shine or shit?

[Countessghoulita at aol.com]

After seeing them at Zillo Festival in HIldesheim in 1998, I can definitely 
 tell they are shit. Mind you, a lot of band had technical difficulties 
that were  promptly resolved, but the singer had to pull out a flame thrower 
and set a  speaker ablaze. At that point I really was wondering what the hell 
they thought  they were; since then, no matter how they lyrics may have 
improve--which I  doubt, no matter how their special effects may be great--I 
don't give a flying  **** about Rammstein and their attitude. What I find astou
nding is that people  want to learn German because of them. Yikes!
 
CG
 
 
In a message dated 12/11/2011 10:36:58 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
adrianwason at btinternet.com writes:

just  picked up the made in germany cd along with my smurf dvd,
told by the girl  in hmv,'she really wanted to play it but not allowed to 
play non festive  stuff'

i picked it up as i havn't got ich will and sonne on  cd,

i looked at 2010 rockring? german gig on u tube looked awesome,  but
we saw them in brixton academy the week after the shepherds bush kj gig  
(2005?)and we walked out after 10 minutes and sat in the bar as a man in a pot 
 was brought in on the opener, and the band were playing on different 
levels  and the whole thing just looked too like 'pull the plug out and they're  
fucked'

i read a review in kerrang 2 weeks ago which said they were  becoming a 
pantomine.

i think till lindemann is one of the best front  men around, but have i 
missed something?

i've yet to hear a rammstein  album with more than 2 good tracks on yet 
they seem inpirational live on a  stadium stage when they put their catalogue 
together.(but not in a 5000? seat  venue after hearing killing joke the week 
before-especially after hearing sgd  &dbd for the first time}

jaz once said he'd like rammstein as  support?!!!
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