[kj] Happy Birthday Raven

[sade1]

IIRC (in case you're familiar with the area), I think he lived near La Puente, 
about 15 minutes east of downtown L.A. 

 
... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Who has the fun.. 
  ..is it always a man with a gun...? 
    Someone must have told him if you work too hard... you can sweat" 




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From: Javier Garcia <jagargal at lycos.com>
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Tue, January 18, 2011 11:18:10 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] Happy Birthday Raven

Dear Raven, what a trully nice guy!!! I never got the chance to met him in 
person, but after he realized i lived from Mexico City, he was so humble and 
such a nice guy to send me some e-mails asking me for places to vacation 
(beaches) and venues to play in Mexico City. As far as i know he lived in a 
latin neighborhood in LA, or at least he shared some time with some mexicans and 
latinos there- so he used to write from time to time asking me the ingredients 
and flavour of some typical mexican food, he also used to asked if it was some 
chile involved in the recipe -if it was too hot or not- of course he used to 
choose hot chile!!!... He always used a mix of spanish and english words in his 
mails, he even used to called "Compadre" (it´s a very cheerful and loving 
mexican way to say "mate" / "good friend")... I mean, these are pretty small 
details, but all these little things just showed me (and show us) what a humble 
and great-hearted man he was. After all, when would i think i would be mailing 
with Raven and talking some "spanglish" with him!!!! I already had the chance to 
met the other KJ guys in NY, and it was pretty cool (Youth and Big Paul were the 
nicer ones to me), but even only by e-mail, Raven was such a warmer person than 
the rest of them.
Of course I keep his mails, it was so exciting to receive a personal e-mail from 
him.

Absolute respect to my compadre Raven!!!

Javier
MexicoCity



On Jan 18, 2011, Simon Abinett <louiecipher33 at hotmail.com> wrote:
Some great memories there

>Thanks for sharing!

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From: frenchyfrenzy at killingjoke.fr

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:57:58 +0100

>Subject: Re: [kj] Happy Birthday Raven

>

>

>Raven was the 1st guy of the group I met at the Underworld in 2003 (just before 

>being ejected from the venue by their manager Patryck who I asked for a pen just 

>for an autograph and I was betrayed by my "french" accent

>The only guy I shouldn't have asked for a pen ;o)))

> 

>At the end of the night thank to Rob Moss's photos pass i finally got the famous 

>ones and my 1st pictures with the group.

>Everything really began one month later in Geneva when I took my videocamera and 

>tried to film the rehearsal from the right side of the stage but from the 

>outside of the venue trying not to be seen by the famous manager ;o))

> 

>Raven noticed it and welcomed me so kindly in their backstage room and said : 

>"You can film everything and everytime you want ...." and from that day I've 

>filmed all their gigs 'except the 2nd nights Astoria 03 and SBE 05 when the 

>shows were officially filmed.

> 

>It's a "return into the circle" because everything ended for Raven in Geneva 

>toowhere we had his funeral's "afterparty"

> 

>I'll never forget all these moments like when he was trying to play drums before 

>the Milano's gig in June 05 and i called him 'Little Paul" behind the drums kit 

>ha ha ha 

>

>Of course his legendary english sense of humour is the thing that misses me most 

>....

> 

>I just remember when we were wandering in Pigalle streets before the Ministry's 

>tour in 2006, a young blonde lady working for a strip tease club tried to invite 

>us inside the club and he whispered something to her ears and she replied : "no 

>no no we can't do that" ha ha ha (certainly something really really wild ;o)))

>That's the last time i saw him and he was very tired but always smiling and 

>ready to take any funny picture.

>RIP Mister Raven

> 

>Stephane " Frenchy Frenzy"

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>De :gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] De la 

>part de Paul Rangecroft

>Envoyé : lundi 17 janvier 2011 13:52

>À : A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>Objet : Re: [kj] Happy Birthday Raven

> 

>50 today. Damn he died young. He must have really taken the piss.

>

>He once got me and Bev some work doing the website for Matt Zane's (the Society 

>One guy's) website (a typical example of him not just saying nice things but 

>actually using his position to do something for others - he was very far from 

>being a cunt in my opinion). But the bit that still makes me smile is when he 

>was telling me about the situation in an email he put "I neglected to mention 

>that you are off your rocker"!

>

>Don't have any garlic beer but I'll eat a clove in honour of the big black 

>country bird (good for old ticker, wot!) and be suitably disgusted.

>

>The Eagle - he was lord above.

>The Raven King was lord below.

>On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 11:55 PM, sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>Garlic Tea (if it can be called that)is good. Done with boiled milk and a clove 

>of. It tastes surprisingly good. 

>

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>From:Mike Cooper <mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>

>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>

>Sent: Sun, January 16, 2011 2:15:52 PM

>Subject: Re: [kj] Happy Birthday Raven

>I don’t normally drink at home so don’t keep too much alcohol in the house but 

>thought I would have a drink to Raven.  The only thing resembling beer I could 

>find was a bottle of garlic beer a mate had bought for me from the garlic farm 

>on the Isle of Wight which has start on a cupboard for 4 or 5 weeks.  I kid you 

>not – garlic beer.  So I opened it, raised it, took a big mouthful and I mean a 

>proper one and good god.  Without hesitation sprayed the lot across the kitchen 

>sink.  Jesus that was nasty!  Why did I ever think it might taste nice and I 

>love garlic in cooking.  I can still taste it (shudder). So a brief toast and a 

>big spray for Raven! The sad thing is my mate who bought it likes it – but then 

>he is a copper.

> 

>Do not drink garlic beer – even if it is free!  

> 

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