[kj] OT: sisters of mercy
Neil Perry
65snoopy at gmail.com
Wed Mar 16 06:54:40 EDT 2011
I used to love The Sisters. I saw them three times in 84/85 and the gigs
were a blast - ridiculous
to be sure, but defiantly so! I saw them twice at the Lyceum and the 'final'
gig at the Albert Hall
(the end of the Hussey/Adams/Eldritch line-up). The Lyceum gigs were played
almost entirely in
a massive cloud of smoke - you could see Eldritch in silhouette and the
occasional hat or guitar neck
sticking out of the gloom... hilarious. But the sound was superb - nothing
like a well-employed drum machine -
and they really did rock (Temple of Love, Alice, Adrenochrome etc). And I
always thought their choice of cover versions was superb - Gimme Shelter,
Sister Ray, Emmaline, Jolene.
I should have made do with my happy memories but was stupid enough to go and
see them
in the 90s. Eldritch had decided to "rewrite" - ie ruin - some of the old
stuff, so all the crowd
favourites had weirdly changed guitar riffs and sometimes different rhythms.
It was horrible.
Never been tempted since.
n
On 16 March 2011 01:10, Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> I have to agree. The Sisters and KJ are pretty disimilar, unless we're
> assuming that all forms of goth, post-punk, metal, industrial etc etc were
> created by Killing Joke. As influential as KJ have been, the Sisters were
> quite obviously not brought into existence purely through the Joke.
>
> Jim.
>
>
> --- On *Tue, 15/3/11, Aleph Kali <blazingstar418 at yahoo.com>* wrote:
>
> "...and of course they wouldn't exist w/o the Joke (and I guess Bauhaus
> too"
>
> The Sisters started out in 1980 and were contemporaries of both KJ and
> Bauhaus, but certainly have never listed either group as an influence.
>
>
> "The band cited Leonard Cohen<http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Cohen>
> , Hawkwind <http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawkwind>, Gary Glitter<http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Glitter>
> , The Velvet Underground<http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Velvet_Underground>
> , The Stooges <http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stooges>, Motörhead<http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mot%C3%B6rhead>
> , Suicide <http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_%28band%29>, The
> Birthday Party<http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Birthday_Party_%28band%29>,
> Pere Ubu and The Fall <http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fall_%28band%29> as
> among their influences"
>
> How do you figure that they wouldn't exist without KJ, considering they
> sound *nothing* alike?
>
> A L P
>
> ~Love Me Like A Reptile~
> www.myspace.com/thereptilehaus
>
> On Mar 15, 2011, at 3:38 PM, GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com<http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gregslawson@msn.com>>
> wrote:
>
> There was always something phony and corny about the Sisters to me...and
> of course they wouldn't exist w/o the Joke (and I guess Bauhaus too)
>
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> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:13:17 -0700
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> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: sisters of mercy
>
> Outside the Gate? ;)
>
> ~Love Me Like A Reptile~
> <http://www.myspace.com/thereptilehaus>www.myspace.com/thereptilehaus
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> On Mar 15, 2011, at 2:11 PM,
> <http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jpwhkj@aol.com>
> jpwhkj at aol.com<http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jpwhkj@aol.com>wrote:
>
> Jaz, pompous, what are you thinking? <grin>
>
> I thought the early Sisters stuff (Temple of Love etc) was pretty good but
> no more than that. Whereas Killing Joke have got something to be pompous
> about...
>
> Jamie
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:16
> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: sisters of mercy
>
> "More" certainly isn't their finest.
> Try either of these instead:
>
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3frcQwZt324><http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3frcQwZt324>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3frcQwZt324
>
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXW0WaST4z8&feature=related><http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXW0WaST4z8&feature=related>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXW0WaST4z8&feature=related
>
> And, it's a good thing that Jaz never came off as pompous back then.... :D
>
> A L P
>
>
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> Subject: [kj] OT: sisters of mercy
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> Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 12:56 PM
>
> I've just watched them doing More on youtube, and was reminded of how
> utterly pompous they seemed back in the day (in particular, Eldritch's
> voice).
>
> Was I wrong? Any Sisters fans care to tell me why they were great?
>
> Jamie
>
>
>
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> Sent: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:02
> Subject: Re: [kj] Also, Sonisphere Knebworth (UK) on July 8 - 10:
>
> "Their wry little website has been coy about things for literally
> decades."
>
> Hahaha. Doing better than the Joke then!
>
>
>
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> Sent: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 17:38
> Subject: Re: [kj] Also, Sonisphere Knebworth (UK) on July 8 - 10:
>
> Weird thing about the Sisters as a live-concern these days (and these
> days means everything since the mid-90s, I guess), is that they continue to
> write and perform NEW songs, but they just don't exist as official releases.
> Sure, you can prize them as muddied bootlegs, but for some of us -- that's
> just not good enough. Their wry little website has been coy about things for
> literally decades.
>
> Meanwhile, is anyone going to the Mission reunion (without Mick)? They're
> recording a reunion album as well .... like the world needs that.
>
> Alex in NYC
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phillipps Marc
> Sent: Mar 15, 2011 11:34 AM
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> Subject: Re: [kj] Also, Sonisphere Knebworth (UK) on July 8 - 10:
>
> Thinking about it, being a SOM fan is a bit like being a KJ fan if their
> last album was Extremities . .
>
>
>
> Some may think this is a good thing :o)
>
>
>
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> Subject: Re: [kj] Also, Sonisphere Knebworth (UK) on July 8 - 10:
>
>
>
> the compy..
>
>
> ________________________________
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> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:09:12 +0000
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> Subject: Re: [kj] Also, Sonisphere Knebworth (UK) on July 8 - 10:
>
> >Last studio album was 1990
>
>
>
> I was thinking about A Slight Case of Overbombing
>
>
>
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> Subject: Re: [kj] Also, Sonisphere Knebworth (UK) on July 8 - 10:
>
>
>
> Last studio album was 1990. A Temple of Love remix in 92 and Greatest
> hits, 1993.
> I guess they do a lot of merch? :/
>
>
> ________________________________
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> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 12:15:06 +0000
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> Subject: Re: [kj] Also, Sonisphere Knebworth (UK) on July 8 - 10:
>
> Can a band that hasn't released anything since 1993 really be considered
> a band any more?
>
>
>
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> Sent: 15 March 2011 12:07
> To: killing joke message board
> Subject: Re: [kj] Also, Sonisphere Knebworth (UK) on July 8 - 10:
>
>
>
> Don't mention the word Goth to Andy he hates it , has been known to pull
> out of any festival that mentions the word.
>
>
>
>
>
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> Subject: Re: [kj] Also, Sonisphere Knebworth (UK) on July 8 - 10:
>
> >but I wonder what the status is these days.
>
>
>
> They're not really The Sisters any more are they? More like Happy Andy
> E's 80's Goth Revival Band as far as I can see
>
>
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> On Behalf Of Alexander Smith
> Sent: 15 March 2011 11:49
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> Subject: Re: [kj] Also, Sonisphere Knebworth (UK) on July 8 - 10:
>
>
>
>
>
> I hate seeing the words "Killing Joke" underneath the word "Slipknot" on
> a bill. That just ain't right.
>
>
>
> Meanwhile, what's the communication like between KJ and the Sisters? I
> believe I remember Jaz slagging off the Sisters way back circa OTG, but
> I wonder what the status is these days.
>
>
>
> Alex in NYC
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 14, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Steve Hackett wrote:
>
>
>
> I'd read there were unlikely to be any this year...I'm so hoping that's
> wrong..
>
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> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 4:11 PM
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> Subject: Re: [kj] Also, Sonisphere Knebworth (UK) on July 8 -
> 10:
>
>
>
> Killing Joke headline the Bohemia stage AFTER the big four play
> the main stage on the Friday !!! Seriously hoping for single day tickets
> here ...
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On 14 Mar 2011, at 15:15, Rheinhold Squeegee
> wrote:
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