[kj] OT: sisters of mercy
Phillipps Marc
Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk
Wed Mar 16 07:49:36 EDT 2011
Is that the gig where you can hear Eldritch saying "Where's Brian?" on the bootlegs?
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Subject: Re: [kj] OT: sisters of mercy
I bought tickets for the recent Leeds shows and as soon as I had ordered them I sat there completely bemused as to why I had done so.
Didn't go and didn't get rid of the tickets.
Brian.
On 16 March 2011 11:16, Simon Abinett <louiecipher33 at hotmail.com> wrote:
To my misfortune i have only seen them 1990 onwards
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Subject: Re: [kj] OT: sisters of mercy
I used to love The Sisters. I saw them three times in 84/85 and the gigs were a blast - ridiculous
to be sure, but defiantly so! I saw them twice at the Lyceum and the 'final' gig at the Albert Hall
(the end of the Hussey/Adams/Eldritch line-up). The Lyceum gigs were played almost entirely in
a massive cloud of smoke - you could see Eldritch in silhouette and the occasional hat or guitar neck
sticking out of the gloom... hilarious. But the sound was superb - nothing like a well-employed drum machine -
and they really did rock (Temple of Love, Alice, Adrenochrome etc). And I always thought their choice of cover versions was superb - Gimme Shelter,
Sister Ray, Emmaline, Jolene.
I should have made do with my happy memories but was stupid enough to go and see them
in the 90s. Eldritch had decided to "rewrite" - ie ruin - some of the old stuff, so all the crowd
favourites had weirdly changed guitar riffs and sometimes different rhythms. It was horrible.
Never been tempted since.
n
On 16 March 2011 01:10, Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
I have to agree. The Sisters and KJ are pretty disimilar, unless we're assuming that all forms of goth, post-punk, metal, industrial etc etc were created by Killing Joke. As influential as KJ have been, the Sisters were quite obviously not brought into existence purely through the Joke.
Jim.
--- On Tue, 15/3/11, Aleph Kali <blazingstar418 at yahoo.com> wrote:
"...and of course they wouldn't exist w/o the Joke (and I guess Bauhaus too"
The Sisters started out in 1980 and were contemporaries of both KJ and Bauhaus, but certainly have never listed either group as an influence.
"The band cited Leonard Cohen <http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Cohen> , Hawkwind <http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawkwind> , Gary Glitter <http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Glitter> , The Velvet Underground <http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Velvet_Underground> , The Stooges <http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stooges> , Motörhead <http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mot%C3%B6rhead> , Suicide <http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_%28band%29> , The Birthday Party <http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Birthday_Party_%28band%29> , Pere Ubu and The Fall <http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fall_%28band%29> as among their influences"
How do you figure that they wouldn't exist without KJ, considering they sound *nothing* alike?
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On Mar 15, 2011, at 3:38 PM, GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com <http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gregslawson@msn.com> > wrote:
There was always something phony and corny about the Sisters to me...and of course they wouldn't exist w/o the Joke (and I guess Bauhaus too)
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Subject: Re: [kj] OT: sisters of mercy
Outside the Gate? ;)
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On Mar 15, 2011, at 2:11 PM, <http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jpwhkj@aol.com> jpwhkj at aol.com <http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jpwhkj@aol.com> wrote:
Jaz, pompous, what are you thinking? <grin>
I thought the early Sisters stuff (Temple of Love etc) was pretty good but no more than that. Whereas Killing Joke have got something to be pompous about...
Jamie
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Subject: Re: [kj] OT: sisters of mercy
"More" certainly isn't their finest.
Try either of these instead:
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3frcQwZt324> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3frcQwZt324> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3frcQwZt324
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXW0WaST4z8&feature=related> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXW0WaST4z8&feature=related> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXW0WaST4z8&feature=related
And, it's a good thing that Jaz never came off as pompous back then.... :D
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Subject: [kj] OT: sisters of mercy
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I've just watched them doing More on youtube, and was reminded of how utterly pompous they seemed back in the day (in particular, Eldritch's voice).
Was I wrong? Any Sisters fans care to tell me why they were great?
Jamie
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Subject: Re: [kj] Also, Sonisphere Knebworth (UK) on July 8 - 10:
"Their wry little website has been coy about things for literally decades."
Hahaha. Doing better than the Joke then!
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Subject: Re: [kj] Also, Sonisphere Knebworth (UK) on July 8 - 10:
Weird thing about the Sisters as a live-concern these days (and these days means everything since the mid-90s, I guess), is that they continue to write and perform NEW songs, but they just don't exist as official releases. Sure, you can prize them as muddied bootlegs, but for some of us -- that's just not good enough. Their wry little website has been coy about things for literally decades.
Meanwhile, is anyone going to the Mission reunion (without Mick)? They're recording a reunion album as well .... like the world needs that.
Alex in NYC
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Sent: Mar 15, 2011 11:34 AM
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Subject: Re: [kj] Also, Sonisphere Knebworth (UK) on July 8 - 10:
Thinking about it, being a SOM fan is a bit like being a KJ fan if their
last album was Extremities . .
Some may think this is a good thing :o)
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the compy..
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Subject: Re: [kj] Also, Sonisphere Knebworth (UK) on July 8 - 10:
>Last studio album was 1990
I was thinking about A Slight Case of Overbombing
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Subject: Re: [kj] Also, Sonisphere Knebworth (UK) on July 8 - 10:
Last studio album was 1990. A Temple of Love remix in 92 and Greatest
hits, 1993.
I guess they do a lot of merch? :/
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Subject: Re: [kj] Also, Sonisphere Knebworth (UK) on July 8 - 10:
Can a band that hasn't released anything since 1993 really be considered
a band any more?
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Subject: Re: [kj] Also, Sonisphere Knebworth (UK) on July 8 - 10:
Don't mention the word Goth to Andy he hates it , has been known to pull
out of any festival that mentions the word.
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Subject: Re: [kj] Also, Sonisphere Knebworth (UK) on July 8 - 10:
>but I wonder what the status is these days.
They're not really The Sisters any more are they? More like Happy Andy
E's 80's Goth Revival Band as far as I can see
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Subject: Re: [kj] Also, Sonisphere Knebworth (UK) on July 8 - 10:
I hate seeing the words "Killing Joke" underneath the word "Slipknot" on
a bill. That just ain't right.
Meanwhile, what's the communication like between KJ and the Sisters? I
believe I remember Jaz slagging off the Sisters way back circa OTG, but
I wonder what the status is these days.
Alex in NYC
On Mar 14, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Steve Hackett wrote:
I'd read there were unlikely to be any this year...I'm so hoping that's
wrong..
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Killing Joke headline the Bohemia stage AFTER the big four play
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here ...
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