[kj] OT Headcount supporting SLF

jon chapman jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk
Tue Mar 22 16:45:22 EDT 2011




Headcount are better than Stiff Little Fingers.










From: gregslawson at msn.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 16:12:31 -0400
Subject: Re: [kj] OT Headcount supporting SLF




I actually think Go For It is a fine album, some great tracks on it. Never had the 4th album though--very hard to find in the US>
I have all their 2nd incarnation albums too--pretty good stuff except for Hope Street.



From: stronkle at hotmail.co.uk
To: gathering at misera.net; Gathering at misera.net
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 18:34:27 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] OT Headcount supporting SLF

first band I ever saw was slf in 79 on the inflammable material tour,cracking gig supported by the starjets (crap), like everyone else I lost interest when go for it came out but they played stoke on that tour so I went along anyway & they were excellent again, they were supported by the wall who were excellent too Sent from my Nokia phone


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Subject: Re: [kj] OT Headcount supporting SLF

I saw SLF at Glasgow Barrowlands last week & it was mental ... they played a blinder & the crowd was crazy. Jake could spend time with Jaz's personal trainer but his extra chubb did not affect the performance in any way. Brilliant having Ali McMordie back on bass with all his energy.


Similar to Neil, I'd gone off them after Go For It but did see Jake Burns & The Big Wheel in 1986 & then my only previous SLF gig on St Patrick's Night in 1988 - exactly 23 years previous !


With other school mates, I'd turned up at the London Lyceum in 1981 for one of those legendary Sunday night bills, only to find that SLF were no longer appearing - it was 27/09/1981 and we got The Damned instead (excellent) but also the then unknown Wall Of Voodoo - despite the bass player donning a Damned t-shirt straight off the merch stall, the crowd were not fooled so Stan & co got somewhat covered in lager and phlegm a la Aztec Camera etc ... such vivid memories !!!

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On 22 Mar 2011, at 15:39, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:




To be honest I mostly lost interest when Go For It came out (fickle fan wanted
another Inflammable...) and only ever saw them once, around the time of Now Then
(82/83?). Always cursed the fact I never saw them earlier. And yes Foxton would
put me off!


On 22 March 2011 16:13, Brian Whitehead <bawhitehead at gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks for that, I loved SLF but didn't realise that. It meant nothing to me either as a 16 year old.

Thing that annoyed me about SLF is the amount of final, as in last ever, shows they did. I hitched down from Manchester to London for at least two before I gave up. Turned me off SLF a bit.
Another was the Bruce Foxton on bass thing. I'd be watching SLF with Town Called Malice going through round and round in my head.
A guy I know was in the room when the sacked Foxton and told me is was a unanimous vote by the rest of the band as he was too big for his boots.

Having said all that I'll be there at Manchester Uni next week.

Brian.






On 22 March 2011 14:19, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:

I had to go and look all this up again as I couldn't remember the details,
it's been a while!

Gordon Ogilvie, who was their manager for a while, was a Daily Express
journalist (on Wikipedia he is a described as a "Marxist journalist on the Daily Express",
which seems unlikely!)
It was he who apparently suggested to the band in their very early days that they sang about
the Northern Ireland troubles - and he and Jake Burns wrote the songs together,
with Ogilvie credited for many of the lyrics.
Of course when this was discovered by the music press back in the day they
had a right go (god I miss the music papers), as this suggested that SLF were somehow not "authentic", or
were being controlled by this shadowy journo character with a hidden agenda.
All this meant nothing to me as a 13-year-old fan, of course.

In this 2009 interview Jake Burns said:
"Gordon was like a fifth member of the band. We wrote songs together and he took
care of the day to day management. It's impossible to over-estimate Gordon's part in the band's story."

http://www.culturenorthernireland.org/article/1377/stiff-little-fingers-make-inflammable-material

N





On 22 March 2011 14:30, Brian Whitehead <bawhitehead at gmail.com> wrote:


"And yes I know about all the lyrics being written by an ex-Daily Express journo"

Really? I didn't know that - please elaborate.

Brian.





On 22 March 2011 13:12, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:

I was looking for something else in a box of, er 'nostalgic' items over the
weekend and rediscovered some signed postcards of Jake Burns, Ali McMordie and
the rest, which I got after I wrote off to the SLF fan club around the time Inflammable
Material came out, when I was 12 or 13 I guess. There was also an Inflammable Material sticker which I'd obviously
decided was so precious I never stuck it on anything (it's not sticky anymore.)

In terms of what it meant at the time, how much I played it to death and how it got me into so much more music,
I think that album is my all time favourite record. I played some a while back and it
still rocks. (And yes I know about all the lyrics being written by an ex-Daily Express journo
or whatever he was, and I still don't give a toss!)

n





On 18 March 2011 17:28, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:





Just been asked to support SLF at the O2 Academy Oxford on Wednesday!

Anyone wanting to go can come along for just ᅵ6 if you email me for details.

Now, better learn the songs proper!!!!


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