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[Nick Scott]

I just shake my head at your retaliatory nature.

On 20 May 2011 13:36, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

>

> It was merely a retort to your comment that you'd been lurking for many

> years with rarely posting.

>

> I don't think we need to continue this. I see your point that there's too

> much crap and not enough meaty discussion here, but that's kinda the nature

> of the beast.

>

> As far as HOSANNAS versus NIGHTTIME goes, it's a matter of opinion, and no

> reason for us to get in a strop about. Neither of us are "wrong" for liking

> what we like. There is no end to that argument.

>

> Again, though, if you feel a dissenting opinion, why not express it and add

> to the conversation instead of lurking?

>

> Alex in NYC

>

>

> On May 20, 2011, at 8:27 AM, Nick Scott wrote:

>

>> A lot more bloody confusing to work through, as I said, no column

>> headings for distinct topics, no user interface, no moderation, no

>> structure.

>>

>> I am not sure I understand your comment about winning something? What

>> is the sarcasm aimed at?

>>

>> On 20 May 2011 13:21, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

>>>

>>> We're getting into semantics here, but regardless of terminology, how

>>> exactly is a email list *different* from an open forum?

>>>

>>> I've been on this list since about 1998 or 9. Do I win something?

>>>

>>> Alex in NYC

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> On May 20, 2011, at 8:18 AM, Nick Scott wrote:

>>>

>>>> I have been on this forum lurking for many years with rarely posting.

>>>> To be honest, this does not work as a forum anyway, it is an email

>>>> list, it would be better structured as topics on a forum on a proper

>>>> website in my opinion.

>>>>

>>>> Perhaps if there was structure, with column headings, topics etc,

>>>> things on here wouldn't get as fragmented.

>>>>

>>>> On 20 May 2011 13:15, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> I agree that an unwieldy portion of commentary here is entirely

>>>>> flotsam,

>>>>> but

>>>>> I assure this was not always the case. By the same token, being an open

>>>>> forum, its very nature encourages differing opinions. You would prefer

>>>>> maybe

>>>>> to simply read press releases that all tow a singular party line?

>>>>>

>>>>> Alex in NYC

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 8:13 AM, Nick Scott wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> 90% of the comments on this so called "Gathering" forum is dross

>>>>>> anyway, you either get trolls, thread spoilers or what I would term

>>>>>> "aggressors".   Perhaps it is because I am tired or reading bitching

>>>>>> on here.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> On 20 May 2011 13:08, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> If you fail to contribute, you rob yourself of the right to bitch

>>>>>>> about

>>>>>>> it,

>>>>>>> then.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Alex in NYC

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 8:07 AM, Nick Scott wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> It is hardly surprising I don't post much on here.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> On 20 May 2011 13:04, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>

>>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> I don't believe I ever asserted that my opinion WAS the only one

>>>>>>>>> here.

>>>>>>>>> If

>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>> did, I'd appreciate it if you cited same before casting said

>>>>>>>>> aspersion.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Moreover, it's not my fault that you don't contribute enough to

>>>>>>>>> re-establish

>>>>>>>>> the rich tapestry of varied opinions that the Gathering used to be

>>>>>>>>> influx

>>>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>>>> insanity and ennui took over.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Alex in NYC

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 8:02 AM, Nick Scott wrote:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> I haven't started a debate before?  Just saying.  Length and

>>>>>>>>>> repetition only adds to the tension in songs on Hosannas in my

>>>>>>>>>> opinion, like some of KJs early stuff, which is also built on

>>>>>>>>>> repetition.  Yours is not the only opinion on here, surprisingly

>>>>>>>>>> enough.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> On 20 May 2011 12:58, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>

>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Dated or not, at least NIGHTTIME has fully-fleshed out, actual

>>>>>>>>>>> songs

>>>>>>>>>>> on

>>>>>>>>>>> it.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Do you really want to start this debate again?

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Alex in NYC

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 7:55 AM, Nick Scott wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Hopelessannas is just your opinion though, for one I don't think

>>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>>> (more dated than their early stuff) mid 80s synth pop Nighttime

>>>>>>>>>>>> album

>>>>>>>>>>>> is all that fantastic or varied, but we hear on here regularly

>>>>>>>>>>>> how

>>>>>>>>>>>> much you love it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Each to their own, personally I have far more time for

>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hosannas"

>>>>>>>>>>>> than

>>>>>>>>>>>> say "Democracy", there again I am sure others would disagree.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> On 20 May 2011 12:42, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>

>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, the Coles recognition is really the only silver lining

>>>>>>>>>>>>> here.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spinefarm unaware that the entire back catalog was already

>>>>>>>>>>>>> recently

>>>>>>>>>>>>> exhumed,

>>>>>>>>>>>>> remastered and re-released (well, apart from KJ03 and

>>>>>>>>>>>>> HOPELESSANNAS)

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex in NYC

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 4:36 AM, Neil Perry wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still, nice to see Colesy get a mention. Here's hoping he gets

>>>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>>>> new

>>>>>>>>>>>>> LP

>>>>>>>>>>>>> also.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> To paraphrase Winston Churchill:

>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Killing Joke will always do the right thing - after they have

>>>>>>>>>>>>> exhausted

>>>>>>>>>>>>> all the alternatives."

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> n

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 19 May 2011 23:26, Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.killingjoke.com

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WEBSITE COMING SOON

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> European Dates

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 Jun Poland Warsaw Sonisphere Buy Tickets

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12 Jun Germany Leipzig Wave Gotik Treffen Buy Tickets

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 Jul Denmark Roskilde Festival Buy Tickets

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8 Jul UK Knebworth Sonisphere Buy Tickets

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 22 Jul Finland Helsinki Tuska Open Air Buy Tickets

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 31 Jul Holland Utrecht Summer Darknes Buy Tickets

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Killing Joke News

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Below we’ve got plenty of news for you from Killing Joke, but

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> open that box we’re really pleased to bring you ‘European

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Super

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> State’

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> month, our new single available on CD, 12” coloured vinyl and

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> digital

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download. The formats of the new single are:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CD

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. ‘European Super State’ (edit)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. ‘Kali Yuga’

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. ‘Ghosts Of Ladbroke Grove’ (Dub Mix)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. ‘European Super State’ (Youth Remix)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. ‘European Super State’ (Dub Remix)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. ‘European Super State’ (Justin Broadrick Remix)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12” vinyl – 290 numbered copies available exclusively from

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.whatrecords.co.uk

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. ‘European Super State’ (Youth Remix)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. ‘European Super State’ (Dub Remix)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. ‘European Super State’ (Justin Broadrick Remix)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. ‘European Super State’ (Clive Goddard Extended mix)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Digital Download

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. ‘European Super State’

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. ‘European Super State’ (Youth Remix)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. ‘European Super State’ (Justin Broadrick Remix)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. ‘European Super State’ (Clive Goddard extended mix)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At the start of the year we announced a deal with

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spinefarm/Universal

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a brand new studio album, which we’ll announce details of

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> summer.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We’re really excited to be back working with the label who put

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Absolute

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dissent, and we’re also glad to announce they’ll be taking

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> control

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the back catalogue which we will be repackaging and

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improving

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course of the next year.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was great to see so many of you in London, Nottingham and

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Manchester,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and at the Camden Crawl recently, for our big return to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> playing

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> live

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the full original line-up. As you may know, Jaz retired to the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Barrier

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Island, Paul to New York, Geordie to Prague and Youth to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andulucia,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the release of ‘European Super State’ we’re all very much back

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> action

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking forward to a massive summer ahead. We’ll have more UK

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> festival

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to come soon as well.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We’ve also got something very special to announce for fans of

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Killing

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joke live show. Following our show at the Royal Festival Hall,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accompanied by stunning visuals designed by Mr. Mike Coles, an

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> artistic

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> genius and longtime Killing Joke collaborator, we can now

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> announce

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> performance will be released as the definitive Killing Joke

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> live

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> album.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fans

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will have many ways to get hold of a copy, the details of

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we’ll

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> announce in early June.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The band are already working on the new album and preparations

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> underway for our European Tour starting in June which takes us

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> straight

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a full summer of festivals, taking in Roskilde and Sonisphere

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> name

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but a

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> few.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is however with great regret that Killing Joke have been

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forced

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cancel the upcoming US dates due to health issues within the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> band.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hope

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be back to the States very soon and appreciate all your

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is going to be an incredible year for Killing Joke, and

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward to the future, and seeing you all at our shows.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All the best, Killing Joke.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Written on May 19, 2011 at 1:58 pm, by admin

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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