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[Nick Scott]

I really don't think posting this initially was enough for you to
think I was being retaliatory and pompous, try reading it again and
explain how you seemed to get the wrong end of the stick?

 "Hopelessannas is just your opinion though, for one I don't think the
(more dated than their early stuff) mid 80s synth pop Nighttime album
is all that fantastic or varied, but we hear on here regularly how
much you love it.

Each to their own, personally I have far more time for "Hosannas" than
say "Democracy", there again I am sure others would disagree."

On 20 May 2011 13:48, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

>

> ....yet fail to recognize the equally retaliatory and pompous nature of your

> own response.

>

> Alex in NYC

>

> On May 20, 2011, at 8:45 AM, Nick Scott wrote:

>

>> I just shake my head at your retaliatory nature.

>>

>> On 20 May 2011 13:36, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

>>>

>>> It was merely a retort to your comment that you'd been lurking for many

>>> years with rarely posting.

>>>

>>> I don't think we need to continue this. I see your point that there's too

>>> much crap and not enough meaty discussion here, but that's kinda the

>>> nature

>>> of the beast.

>>>

>>> As far as HOSANNAS versus NIGHTTIME goes, it's a matter of opinion, and

>>> no

>>> reason for us to get in a strop about. Neither of us are "wrong" for

>>> liking

>>> what we like. There is no end to that argument.

>>>

>>> Again, though, if you feel a dissenting opinion, why not express it and

>>> add

>>> to the conversation instead of lurking?

>>>

>>> Alex in NYC

>>>

>>>

>>> On May 20, 2011, at 8:27 AM, Nick Scott wrote:

>>>

>>>> A lot more bloody confusing to work through, as I said, no column

>>>> headings for distinct topics, no user interface, no moderation, no

>>>> structure.

>>>>

>>>> I am not sure I understand your comment about winning something? What

>>>> is the sarcasm aimed at?

>>>>

>>>> On 20 May 2011 13:21, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> We're getting into semantics here, but regardless of terminology, how

>>>>> exactly is a email list *different* from an open forum?

>>>>>

>>>>> I've been on this list since about 1998 or 9. Do I win something?

>>>>>

>>>>> Alex in NYC

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 8:18 AM, Nick Scott wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> I have been on this forum lurking for many years with rarely posting.

>>>>>> To be honest, this does not work as a forum anyway, it is an email

>>>>>> list, it would be better structured as topics on a forum on a proper

>>>>>> website in my opinion.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Perhaps if there was structure, with column headings, topics etc,

>>>>>> things on here wouldn't get as fragmented.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> On 20 May 2011 13:15, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I agree that an unwieldy portion of commentary here is entirely

>>>>>>> flotsam,

>>>>>>> but

>>>>>>> I assure this was not always the case. By the same token, being an

>>>>>>> open

>>>>>>> forum, its very nature encourages differing opinions. You would

>>>>>>> prefer

>>>>>>> maybe

>>>>>>> to simply read press releases that all tow a singular party line?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Alex in NYC

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 8:13 AM, Nick Scott wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> 90% of the comments on this so called "Gathering" forum is dross

>>>>>>>> anyway, you either get trolls, thread spoilers or what I would term

>>>>>>>> "aggressors".   Perhaps it is because I am tired or reading bitching

>>>>>>>> on here.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> On 20 May 2011 13:08, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>

>>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> If you fail to contribute, you rob yourself of the right to bitch

>>>>>>>>> about

>>>>>>>>> it,

>>>>>>>>> then.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Alex in NYC

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 8:07 AM, Nick Scott wrote:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> It is hardly surprising I don't post much on here.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> On 20 May 2011 13:04, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>

>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> I don't believe I ever asserted that my opinion WAS the only one

>>>>>>>>>>> here.

>>>>>>>>>>> If

>>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>> did, I'd appreciate it if you cited same before casting said

>>>>>>>>>>> aspersion.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Moreover, it's not my fault that you don't contribute enough to

>>>>>>>>>>> re-establish

>>>>>>>>>>> the rich tapestry of varied opinions that the Gathering used to

>>>>>>>>>>> be

>>>>>>>>>>> influx

>>>>>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>>>>>> insanity and ennui took over.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Alex in NYC

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 8:02 AM, Nick Scott wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't started a debate before?  Just saying.  Length and

>>>>>>>>>>>> repetition only adds to the tension in songs on Hosannas in my

>>>>>>>>>>>> opinion, like some of KJs early stuff, which is also built on

>>>>>>>>>>>> repetition.  Yours is not the only opinion on here, surprisingly

>>>>>>>>>>>> enough.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> On 20 May 2011 12:58, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>

>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dated or not, at least NIGHTTIME has fully-fleshed out, actual

>>>>>>>>>>>>> songs

>>>>>>>>>>>>> on

>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you really want to start this debate again?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex in NYC

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 7:55 AM, Nick Scott wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hopelessannas is just your opinion though, for one I don't

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (more dated than their early stuff) mid 80s synth pop

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nighttime

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> album

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is all that fantastic or varied, but we hear on here regularly

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much you love it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Each to their own, personally I have far more time for

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hosannas"

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> say "Democracy", there again I am sure others would disagree.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 20 May 2011 12:42, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, the Coles recognition is really the only silver lining

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spinefarm unaware that the entire back catalog was already

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recently

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exhumed,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remastered and re-released (well, apart from KJ03 and

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HOPELESSANNAS)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex in NYC

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 4:36 AM, Neil Perry wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still, nice to see Colesy get a mention. Here's hoping he

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gets

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LP

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To paraphrase Winston Churchill:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Killing Joke will always do the right thing - after they

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exhausted

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all the alternatives."

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> n

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 19 May 2011 23:26, Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.killingjoke.com

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WEBSITE COMING SOON

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> European Dates

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 Jun Poland Warsaw Sonisphere Buy Tickets

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12 Jun Germany Leipzig Wave Gotik Treffen Buy Tickets

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 Jul Denmark Roskilde Festival Buy Tickets

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8 Jul UK Knebworth Sonisphere Buy Tickets

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 22 Jul Finland Helsinki Tuska Open Air Buy Tickets

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 31 Jul Holland Utrecht Summer Darknes Buy Tickets

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Killing Joke News

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Below we’ve got plenty of news for you from Killing Joke,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> open that box we’re really pleased to bring you ‘European

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Super

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> State’

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> month, our new single available on CD, 12” coloured vinyl

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> digital

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download. The formats of the new single are:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CD

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. ‘European Super State’ (edit)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. ‘Kali Yuga’

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. ‘Ghosts Of Ladbroke Grove’ (Dub Mix)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. ‘European Super State’ (Youth Remix)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. ‘European Super State’ (Dub Remix)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. ‘European Super State’ (Justin Broadrick Remix)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12” vinyl – 290 numbered copies available exclusively from

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. ‘European Super State’ (Youth Remix)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. ‘European Super State’ (Dub Remix)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. ‘European Super State’ (Justin Broadrick Remix)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. ‘European Super State’ (Clive Goddard Extended mix)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Digital Download

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. ‘European Super State’

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. ‘European Super State’ (Youth Remix)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. ‘European Super State’ (Justin Broadrick Remix)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. ‘European Super State’ (Clive Goddard extended mix)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At the start of the year we announced a deal with

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spinefarm/Universal

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a brand new studio album, which we’ll announce details of

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> summer.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We’re really excited to be back working with the label who

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Absolute

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dissent, and we’re also glad to announce they’ll be taking

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> control

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the back catalogue which we will be repackaging and

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improving

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course of the next year.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was great to see so many of you in London, Nottingham and

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Manchester,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and at the Camden Crawl recently, for our big return to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> playing

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> live

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the full original line-up. As you may know, Jaz retired to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Barrier

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Island, Paul to New York, Geordie to Prague and Youth to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andulucia,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the release of ‘European Super State’ we’re all very much

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> action

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking forward to a massive summer ahead. We’ll have more

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UK

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> festival

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to come soon as well.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We’ve also got something very special to announce for fans

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Killing

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joke live show. Following our show at the Royal Festival

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hall,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accompanied by stunning visuals designed by Mr. Mike Coles,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> artistic

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> genius and longtime Killing Joke collaborator, we can now

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> announce

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> performance will be released as the definitive Killing Joke

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> live

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> album.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fans

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will have many ways to get hold of a copy, the details of

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we’ll

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> announce in early June.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The band are already working on the new album and

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> preparations

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> underway for our European Tour starting in June which takes

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> straight

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a full summer of festivals, taking in Roskilde and

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sonisphere

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> name

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but a

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> few.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is however with great regret that Killing Joke have been

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forced

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cancel the upcoming US dates due to health issues within the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> band.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hope

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be back to the States very soon and appreciate all your

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is going to be an incredible year for Killing Joke, and

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward to the future, and seeing you all at our shows.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All the best, Killing Joke.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Written on May 19, 2011 at 1:58 pm, by admin

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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