[kj] What? Records:
Rob Moss
rob.moss at gmx.com
Wed Apr 25 13:21:15 EDT 2012
But this is a common misconception. Sorry. Not meaning to pick on you.
But.
That £5 goes to what records. Not KJ. What records pay 20% vat. So that's £1 off. Then they have to make money. So maybe another £1 as retailer. Then Spinefarm have to press it and distribute it. £1. And colesy gets paid for artwork. So, there is probably less than £2 that has to give Spinefarm a profit and the band some money.
On a standard release at £15 in the shop the retailer will probably pay £8. The distribution get 20-25%. The band get about 14% on the dealer price of £8. About £1. Between 4. And the management get 20% of that!
Believe me. As someone who has released 3 albums and never received a penny. The band does not make money at this!
That is why pledge, for all it's faults, is a good deal for the artist. Always try and buy music from the artist website. It makes a hell of a difference.
On 25 Apr 2012, at 17:56, Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com> wrote:
> Well, I was speaking with tongue planted firmly in cheek, but the single wasn't self-released, it was a licensed limited edition of 200 (mine is #87). At 5BP each, there is only the potential to generate $1000BP, so nobody is getting rich but I doubt the band lost money on the deal. Its not like they're selling it for less than it cost to produce, even taking studio costs for "Penny Drops" into account.
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> I wasn't criticizing KJ; they're doing what every other band in their position does on a regular basis: sell special editions in multiple formats to hardcore fans.
> Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 17:58:16 +0200
> From: rob.moss at gmx.com
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> Seriuosly, you don't think the band make money out of that do you?
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> 90% of what you described has nothing to do with the band. They will have lost money on that single release.
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> Just got my single and album from What Records yesterday (ship date was 4/14). All arrived intact and in good order, although the CD was unwrapped, which I thought odd.
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> If anyone is still wondering how the band generate revenue short of Youth loaning them all a daily fiver: the single contains exactly one unique tune ("Penny Drops"). This cardboard-sleeve single cost me $8.50US, plus another $4US for shipping.
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> In all, I paid app. $13US for one song. I don't even want to think about what that one song cost the people who also bought the vinyl.
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> At least "New Uprising" will only set me back a dollar, assuming they get their digital distribution issues resolved.
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> I can't even say it without laughing...
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