[kj] Jaz still AWOL- HR/Bad Brains

[Adam Helfer]

I camp as in his inner circle-- which dont nec include his bandmates...

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On Aug 8, 2012, at 4:50 PM, Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com> wrote:


> HR still has a camp?

>  

> This reminds me of a Jonathan Richman story from a few years ago, not related to mental health but just to the reality of making a living.

>  

> Richman was performing at First Avenue in downtown Minneapolis which is very near the Greyhound bus depot. To hear the booker tell it, he literally got off a bus with his guitar, walked into soundcheck, later performed the show and then caught another bus bound for Milwaukee where he had a show the next night. I've heard similar stories of self-booking and promotion for Graham Parker, James Cotton et al.

>  

> Considering what I've heard and seen recently of HR, I can't imagine he has the overhead to support a 'camp' located anywhere other than second star to the left.

>  

>  

> 

> From: Devacor at aol.com

> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 15:58:30 -0400

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz still AWOL- HR/Bad Brains

> 

> 

> on that note-- 

>  I was asked to do a piece on HR of the Bad Brains (asked by HR and his people)-- 

> not sure how many people here follow him and the current situation---

>  but his bizarre/eccentric behavior has increased over the years, along with him tanking a few shows-- and at best these days him just strumming and humming along, showing not an inkling of his former self. 

>  there is a bad brains documentary coming out which doesnt show him in the greatest light- and there was a character assassination of an article in a local DC paper-- so now they are wanting damage control. 

>   his 'people' are stating- oh its all an act. these fickle, cloddish fans don't get it and expect an artist to perform to their every whim-- if HR wants to change his schtick an artist should be able to do so..

> 

> on the other hand, just sitting there and not singing at a show isnt cool either-- but that was after fans razzed him, so he clammed up. 

>  

> on speaking to HR, he expressed personal vulnerabilities and some nights he may just not have it.  and how is he really going to perform those songs like he did 25-30 years ago-- he may have been the only person out there who could have done so-- 

> so a 'human element' needs to be factored in also... 

> but also he was very lucid in our talk and much of his new persona is clearly an act-- so is he clowning fans? people are accusing him of that...

> 

> So his camp bascially is asking for a lot of concessions from people/the fans. 

> in which the average person would not nearly get as much leeway, but for the eccentric rock star, its another set of circumstances...

> 

> anyway, ive been sitting on the whole project for about a month now- 

> 

> Adam

> 

> 

> Sent from my iPad

> 

> On Aug 8, 2012, at 6:35 AM, Paul Wady <paulwady at hotmail.com> wrote:

> 

> Ah.  The nature of our heroes?  I think you are right, and inadvertantly describe the downside of the anarchic-genius they possess.

>  

> It is this flawed aspect of themselves as a band and individuals that gives them more personality and character than all of...          fill in the gap here

> 

> Pity we cannot have one without the other, but that's life.  Regardless of 'the charts' as such, they have given out their works of late, and they are great and that is that.  They stand alone, towering over a lot of gutless saddo's who did not survive in squats in dirty old 70/80's London and produce ****ing amazing music.  

>  

> They always will.  Don't worry.  The truth always outs sooner or later.

>  

> P.W..

>  

> 

>  

> > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

> > To: gathering at misera.net

> > Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 16:54:09 +1200

> > Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz still AWOL

> > 

> > To me the erratic nature of the yes / no gig cancellations, and some of the

> > more rabid ramblings of Jazhole suggest pretty strongly that it's all about

> > someone's brain chemistry rather than anything cold and calculated...

> > 

> > If those fuckers were capable (as a unit) of cold and calculated...um,

> > calculations...they'd be charting the fuck out of the....um, charts. They

> > absolutely deserve to be (Euro Superstate, Ladbroke Grove, Endgame etc), but

> > no...

> > 

> > Killing Joke's last two albums remind me of the 90s, as in loads of decent,

> > powerful ass kicking music coming out regularly...I dunno whether the

> > current generation were all born without any testosterone or whether the

> > demise of the record industry is to blame, but the last 12 years pales in

> > comparison to the 90s. I couldn't enter into a serious debate about anyone

> > on that, it's beyond question. 

> > 

> > Killing Joke are still ahead of their time, ahead of the game, totally

> > invisible to the masses...and shooting themselves in the foot at every

> > opportunity.

> > 

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On

> > Behalf Of Alexander Smith

> > Sent: Wednesday, 8 August 2012 12:18 p.m.

> > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> > Subject: [kj] Jaz still AWOL

> > 

> > 

> > Anyone consider how prophetic Jaz's words are in this old clip...?

> > 

> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6gL0evYV2A

> > 

> > Perhaps he has, in fact, minced away.

> > 

> > 

> > In all seriousness, I'm still of the mindset that this isn't so much a

> > clandestine departure for the great unknown as it is a calculated,

> > face-saving PR-stunt.

> > 

> > I, of course, could be entirely mistaken. Regardless, has there been any

> > further "official" word?

> > 

> > Here's hoping it's all resolved soon, and peacefully at that.

> > 

> > Alex in NYC

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