[kj] Latest official word on Facebook
adrianwason at btinternet.com
adrianwason at btinternet.com
Tue Aug 14 15:49:19 EDT 2012
I agree Alex I think its a fuckin disgrace and the whole thing is a total wind up and publicity stunt .
i think if the band were top bill on the cult mission shows none of this pathetic childish bullshit would have happened-but what do i know?
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From: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>; 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, 14 August 2012, 20:05
Subject: Re: [kj] Latest official word on Facebook
I don't know about anyone else here, but I think the whole Nirvana Symphonic thing is way more offensive than the Cult/Mission kerfuffle and the pricey Metropolis gig COMBINED.
Alex in NYC
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>From: TB <planetary at socal.rr.com>
>Sent: Aug 14, 2012 2:24 PM
>To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" <gathering at misera.net>
>Subject: Re: [kj] Latest official word on Facebook
>
>Alexander Smith wrote:
>
>Latest official word on Facebook:
>
>Okay. So let's get some stuff straight so we can all get on with whatever it is we all do.
>
>This whole tour situation has left a lot of people with a bad taste in their mouth and we can only apologise to anyone who bought
>tickets specifically to see us. We are working on a way of making sure we make it up to all of you so please keep your ticket Stubbs
>for the dates and we will do out best to make amends.
>
>Part of what makes this band what it is is the chaos that surrounds us all and we are unpredictable at best. If you understand our
>band you will also understand that the recent comings and goings are just another day in the Chaos Office. That said people parting
>with hard earned and not getting to see us is shitty and like I say we will make amends.
>
>PLEDGE
>
>The live album in all it's guises has now been delivered to everyone (the last 30 were just sent) and as normal there were some
>issues. However, Pledge is not Amazon or HMV it's not instant gratification. It is a way for bands like Ours to make one off special
>items that in this day and age don't have the commercial value or are relatively low print run enough that selling through 3rd party
>retailers would not really allow (rough trade and amoeba aside).
>
>So when you order through Pledge your paying for the creation as well as for the product. This it can take a while to get delivered
>as in most cases it's not in existence when you order. The reason we printed everyone's names who bought one in the inside is that
>they all made the record as much as we did. Sadly however pressing plants etc just fucked us around for a very long time and your
>shit got delayed....... Now it's there most people seem to dig it though.
>
>Things like the DUB album that Youth has as put together and Jaz's autobiography and symphony probably wouldn't come to light
>without using Pledge or a Similar system so if your into what we do and
>You don't mind a Few months wait for unique things we do buy em, if it's too much of a
>Pain in the ass for you to wait, don't buy because there ain't anything we can do about it.
>
>Metropolis
>
>These shows were set up by an old colleague of the band whom simply put puts on tiny shows at a high ticket price throws in booze
>and grub etc and a bunch of other stuff and films it and sells it to TV companies etc. we agreed to do it simply to do some
>Rehersals prior to the Cult tour. The shows would have paid for our Rehersals/flights etc and would have served as warm ups. When
>the Cult tour was obviously getting on shaky ground we pulled these two shows. Not ago against the idea in principle and if you can
>afford the ticket the experience is a good un regardless who your going to see. But we are not doing them so It doesn't matter.
>
>I know there will be the inevitable round of complaints and incredulity attached to this post but all we can do is tell you as the
>cards fall.
>
>We are what we are and that probably explains why we never became Rich and famous eh?!
>
>Take it or leave it that's where we are at.
>
>KJ 2012
>
>+++++++++++++++++++
>
>Complete bullshit. The various issues aside, there's a certain level of arrogance and continued evasiveness that's just really hard
>to stomach from this band at this point considering what has gone down the last couple months.
>
>"Oh, we're fuck-ups but that's part of our charm..."
>
>No, the music is. The years of unprofessional bullshit and pathetic excuses when things predictably don't work out is insulting to
>any fan's intelligence. Does it make you guys feel proud that the majority of your fans never take you for your word, know that
>the likelihood of any promised tour, gig, new project will be canceled or never be completed?
>
>"Keep your tickets, we'll make it up to you...... we PROMISSSSSSSSSSE!"
>
>Yeah right. Can't wait to hear how that's gonna happen.
>
>The new level of hypocrisy that's been added through the laughably disastrous Cult tour, Metropolis gig(s?) and announcements of
>Jaz's craptacular Nirvana project utterly destroy whatever joy and goodwill the last few years worth of shows and released music may
>have brought fans.
>
>Shove your apology, Killing Joke.
>
>T.B.
>
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