[kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 110, Issue 60

[Rob Moss]

Indeed Pete. 

I'm telling you to drop it mate. It's boring now. 

But, like you say. 
Your choice mate!

On 29 Aug 2012, at 06:03, F Luke <fluke1 at live.co.uk> wrote:


> But ultimately people are responsibly for their own actions, simply saying that someone else  told me to do it isnt an acceptable excuse in any situation. 

>    Cormac is responsible for his own actions and he is accountable for those actions .

> If someone tells you to do something, its up to you whether you do it or not .

> 

> Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 13:39:31 -0700

> From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 110, Issue 60

> 

> Right, ID not questioned, I am pointing out the intimacy/relationships between the 2.  A friend may feel a PERSONAL (only) need to not forward your stupidity to the boss. Anyone else - say the coworker in my example - not so close? Not so much. Really, not at all. Said coworker will/can forward the stupid message and cannot be blamed for doing exactly what you asked. 

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> Blessed are the Cracked for 

>   they let in the Light,

>     others all are just a..

>       'nother brick in the Wall

> 

> From: F Luke <fluke1 at live.co.uk>

> To: "gathering at misera.net" <gathering at misera.net> 

> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 2:55 AM

> Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 110, Issue 60

> 

> The identity of the people isnt being questioned, the question is whether it was a drunken rant by Jaz or whether is was a deliberate ploy by Jaz to get the tour cancelled

> 

> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:16:50 -0700

> From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 110, Issue 60

> 

> A better example and question would be, if a worker asks a co-worker to tell their boss, "Attention, dear jerk....you suck, blow and spin" and the 1st worker shows an employee ID  badge and reconfirms his statement and desire for it to be forward to their boss.. the better question would be, can you blame employee #2 for having done so (forwarded #1's statement)? The answer  would be no. 

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> 

> 

> Blessed are the Cracked for 

>   they let in the Light,

>     others all are just a..

>       'nother brick in the Wall

> 

> From: F Luke <fluke1 at live.co.uk>

> To: "gathering at misera.net" <gathering at misera.net> 

> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 11:06 PM

> Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 110, Issue 60

> 

> So, if you go out with a friend to a bar and have a few drinks , everyone gets a bit carried away and he starts ranting about his job, how he hates his boss and he leans over and slurs, "Tommorow , go and tell my boss that hes a twat and tell him that I resign from my job"

> Would you get on the phone the next day and relay the message to the Boss?

> 

> 

> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 15:10:53 -0700

> From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com

> To: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk; gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 110, Issue 60

> 

> Jaz fuckin' blew it, and took a fan down with him, plain and simple. He needs to make it up to him and by extension the fanBase for jerking them around.

> 

> Basically, Cormac is (was?) a fan willing and eager to meet the band and share of that meeting whatever news and comments the exalted et illustrious Knight Le Chevalier cared to air. But the great wandering Knight Jaz Le Chevalier de la Sahaire instead stood back from, denied and thereby discredited and smeared the eager fan le peasant Cormac by singling out Cormac's faceBook/posting as made-up bullshit that Jaz never said. "Jeez, what kind of a fan would do such a thing," others not in-the-Know may ask of Cormac, because le grande Chevalier freaked out at it all. 

> Any righteous Knight would have sworn the poor naif to secrecy and then have asked him to accompany him on his great peregrinage to fight the godless savages the Paynim Touareg and alAqeadinIslamic Maghrib tribes beyond The Great Sands. Or maybe offer him free tickets and lodging at the next KJ Festival appearance. 

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> 

> 

> Blessed are the Cracked for 

>   they let in the Light,

>     others all are just a..

>       'nother brick in the Wall

> 

> From: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net> 

> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 2:31 AM

> Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 110, Issue 60

> 

> Of course it's Cormac's fault! He'll think twice next time Jaz gives him messages to distribute...

>  

>  

> From: F Luke <fluke1 at live.co.uk>

> To: "gathering at misera.net" <gathering at misera.net> 

> Sent: Wednesday, 22 August 2012, 8:44

> Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 110, Issue 60

> 

> That is quite an exaggeration, Cormac hasnt been left to die .

> Maybe in future he should wait for KJ to make an official statement, rather than trying to speak on their behalf .

> Jaz has been left to pick up the pieces which were the result of Cormacs posts .

> Cormac should accept some of the blame for the whole fiasco , even so, Jaz didnt make any accusations or name anyone.

> 

> From: fatpotanga at gmail.com

> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 08:40:20 +0100

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 110, Issue 60

> 

> Again, that's exactly how I feel.

> I couldn't care less about the 'chaos surrounds us get on with it' thing - we all know the unpredictability of the beast.

> It's the ridiculous cover up & such painfully embarrassing lies.

> Jaz being dressed as a woman & shoved on the lifeboat while pushing Cormac overboard to distract the sharks has left a very sour taste 

> 

> On 15 Aug 2012, at 23:44, jpwhkj at aol.com wrote:

> 

> No offence taken.  Here's my viewpoint:

>  

> Yes, it would be nice if you could rely on KJ to show up when they say they will.  However, you can't.

>  

> But that's not the thing that really gets me - which is the utterly lame excuses, and the idea that somehow it's just like that, 'cos it's Killing Joke, y'know.

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