[kj] Jaz's Hilarious Rant on Hypocrite Rock Stars in Politics‏

[pssyche23]

It's real politik isn't it Peter ? This is why you should be wary of single interest groups & why strategic infrastructure planning should be taken out of the hands of politicians as they'll probably do a u-turn as soon as they get in.

Prime example is the "so called" third runway at Heathrow. Third runway ? The original 1946 plan was for 9 runways - a central "star of David" with 6 runways (which was built) and a smaller triangle with 3 runways to the north, close to where the M4 is today.

As the central complex of terminals 1 to 3 expanded, three of the runways were taken out of use but as recent as 2004 there was a shorter 'cross wind' runway regularly in use but T1/T2 expansion east downgraded it to a "taxiway" only.

Amsterdam Schiphol has 6 runways, two built a couple of km's further out whilst Frankfurt Main had a new short runway built to the north which increases capacity at peak times from 80 to 120 movements an hour.

Of course in the UK, the Tories campaigned against the "third runway" against the wishes of business & the silent majority of local residents (many of which have jobs there) but now some Tory MP's are calling for a 3rd & 4th !!!

HACAN are the vocal opponent but seem to represent nimbys living a few miles further out in more affluent areas. Their claims of greater aircraft noise are utter nonsense. Aircraft engines are so much quieter than in the 70's & 80's and the EU brought in noise categories which led to the banning of the noisier types such as Illyushin & Tupolev jets, much to the annoyance of enthusiasts like me. Some of the older types are now only allowed with hush kits fitted. The likes of HACAN completely pull the wool over peoples eyes.

Still, environmentally where is this planet heading ? do you want access to air travel taken away from the masses ? but I guess HACAN supporters still jet off on their own holidays ! Quite !!! 

There was an infamous gaffe when Tamsin Ormond, spokesperson for the Climate Rush pressure group flew to New York for an "anti-air travel" seminar. Words cannot convey how much I detest these utter hypocrites. 

So, yes, as Peter suggests, this is the way of the world, expect politicians to say one thing then do another when they get in, but I feel major infrastructure decisions should be elevated beyond party politics for the exact reasons above.

Regards, Antoni

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On 12 Jul 2012, at 08:02, F Luke <fluke1 at live.co.uk> wrote:


> Also Jaz is critical of Peter Garret for allowing U.S air bases in Australia .

> Well, for a start, there are no U.S. airbases in Australia , although there is a joint U.S./ Australian air base .

> Peter Garret wouldnt have had the power to close it down, even if he wanted too.

> He would have probably came to the conclusion that having U.S. troops there was good for the local economy , it gave the Australian airforce a chance to use the latest weaponry, and it was a place where the USA could practice shooting at people on its own side without the risk of Americans getting injured

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