[kj] London 16/9/12, early KJ show

[Brendan Quinn]

The Cult - fucking average song - > 4 million views. 

 

LLB gets 20% of that. 

 

It Wuz Always 'Bout Tha Numbahs

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3Vu-EeYq_w
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3Vu-EeYq_w&feature=related>
&feature=related

 

 

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Jim Harper
Sent: Friday, 22 June 2012 1:35 a.m.
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] London 16/9/12, early KJ show

 

I see your point about record sales, but I'm not sure it's as clear-cut as
that, even from a purely mercenary, accountant's-eye-view. Despite both
being huge in the 1980s, neither the Mission and the Cult have released an
album worth hearing since December 31st 1989. I know that's subjective, but
whereas Killing Joke have received a majority of favourable reviews for
every album since Pandemonium, the others haven't. Outside of the 'gothic'
media, the Mission's albums haven't been even mentioned- let alone actually
reviewed- since Masque. It's slightly better for the Cult, admittedly.
Whereas Jaz (and to a lesser extent the others) turns up in almost every big
music mag (in particular Kerrang, Metal Hammer and RockSound) whenever
they're working on an album, I think I've only seen one feature with Astbury
and Duffy in God knows how many years (there was one in Classic Rock). I
know I haven't seen Wayne Hussey interviewed since 1994. The Mission and the
Cult crop up in frequent compilations of their earlier stuff, but even
smaller stores usually stock Killing Joke's latest album.

 

Obviously I'm talking about the UK here, I know it's different in the US.
People go to see the Mission and the Cult for their hits. 75% of the
audience wouldn't shed a tear if both bands never played anything less than
22 years old. The kids I see at Joke gigs go nuts for Asteroid or This World
Hell or Depthcharge, songs from the then most-recent album, as well as the
'classics'. Even speaking only financially, that's got to be important.

 

Jim.

 

From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net> 
Sent: Wednesday, 20 June 2012, 13:25
Subject: Re: [kj] London 16/9/12, early KJ show

 

 

With all due respect, Robert, that's now how promoters operate. Bills are
invariably organized over box-office draw. The cold, truth of the matter is
the Cult and the Mish -- while both admitted acolytes of the Joke -- have
sold piles more records than them. Thus, they  headline.

 

Alex in NYC

 

 

On Jun 19, 2012, at 5:23 PM, robert best wrote:





In 1986 KJ headlined at the Reading Festival and The Mission supported. The
Cult were influenced by the Joke, so the promoters should have put KJ on the
top of the bill for this September!

_______________________________________________
Gathering mailing list
Gathering at misera.net
http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering

 


_______________________________________________
Gathering mailing list
Gathering at misera.net
http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering



-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://four.pairlist.net/pipermail/gathering/attachments/20120623/b077e6b6/attachment.htm>