[kj] Glasgow Shambles

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Don't promoters carry insurance as a matter of course? I mean, if you're promoting international touring bands, isn't it just good business practice? 


 
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 From: Tony Stuart <baxmatic at gmail.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net> 
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Glasgow Shambles
 

the promoter was on facebook saying the gig was cut short missing "a couple of songs"..

but there were seven songs remaining unplayed on the setlist...

i dont expect the promoter to put themselves out for the punters.

KJ havent bothered their arse to say anythign about it -- but they were quick enough to appease Sheffield for missing an encore last week

lame as fuck






On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com> wrote:

If its anything like in the States, responsibility falls to the promoter. The venue is simply a rented space that receives either a guarantee or a portion of the door vs. liquor sales or some other arrangement. Many clubs do also host and promote their own shows but that was apparently not the case here. As for the band, they also receive a guarantee from the promoter, not from the venue. Most venue/promoter contracts will also have some kind of "act of God" clause that determines who gets paid, how much and under what circumstances, i.e. bad weather, power outages etc. KJ and the ABC got their money; it's up to the promoter to decide what constitutes a full show and when to offer refunds. 

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>From: baxmatic at gmail.com

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>Subject: Re: [kj] Glasgow Shambles

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>Yes, the promoter passes the buck to the venue who pass the buck to the energy supplier.

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>We'll get over it.  Its just a bit raw meantime.

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>Would like to think KJ will make a gesture of some kind to play another gig somewhere up here at the end of the tour, but it will all be forgotten by now, no doubt...  the past is a foreign country, after all...

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>On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 3:48 PM, wessidetempest . <wessidetempest at hotmail.com> wrote:

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>I would think that's up to the venue. It's not the bands fault. Next person down the ladder is the venue. 

>>So they make a claim. Then that claim goes to the city for the money. But they won't get it. 

>>Risk of running a venue I guess. But the odds are pretty high it won't happen again

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>>On Mar 14, 2012, at 10:46 AM, "Tony Stuart" <baxmatic at gmail.com> wrote:

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>>Update:

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>>>Managed to get through to the duty manager at the venue, who was very candid, and he says that the promoter (triple g/ regular music) has refused to issue refunds or attempt to organise another show..

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>>>So, everyone's been left high and dry, and not a peep from the band.

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>>>Totally shambolic.

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>>>On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Tony Stuart <baxmatic at gmail.com> wrote:

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>>>Surprised this hasn't got a mention yet.

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>>>>The KJ gig at Glasgow on monday night got pulled halfway though because of a power cut.

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>>>>The gig was no more than half way through, as i saw the setlist on the stage, that proved it.

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>>>>I've hassled the venue for a refund, and they panned me off by saying that its down to the promoter to autghorise refunds.

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>>>>Today, can't get though to speak to anyone, just an answering machine that doesnt accept messages. 

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>>>>Power cut wasn't the band's fault obviously, but there's been a disappointing silence from all concerned.

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>>>>Doubt I'll ever bother with KJ again unless someone pipes up to make an official comment.

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