[kj] MMXII First Listen....
andrew scott
brandymoth at yahoo.co.uk
Tue Mar 27 10:29:52 EDT 2012
The Lp is not out & about till April 2nd & I look forward greatly to the said unique article of uncontaminated noise machinery & marching rhythms. Ministry first, will be interesting to see which makes me more nostalgic.
The Fungus Moth.
Challenging the Future.
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1. Re: MMXII first listen: (Rob Moss)
2. Re: MMXII first listen: (bongo)
3. Re: MMXII first listen: (Stephen Robinson)
4. Re: MMXII first listen: (Neil Perry)
5. Re: MMXII first listen: (Alexander Smith)
6. Re: MMXII first listen: (Bo Krogsgaard)
7. Re: MMXII first listen: (Chris Williamson)
8. Re: MMXII first listen: (Neil Perry)
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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:11:18 +0100
From: Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com>
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Wasted chorus though.
He could have made more of it.
I'm loving this album so far.
On 27 Mar 2012, at 05:49, Ketracel White <ketracelwhite at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Don't know that I've ever heard the Joke do a heavy shuffle - "Colony Collapse" kicks Ass!!!
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> On 2012-03-27 04:31:44 +0000 nomeanswhat <nomeanswhat at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Having now finished my first spin of MMXII I can say, I do miss Geordie's
>> guitar... sometimes it is way down in the mix, sometimes it doesn't sound
>> like him at all... the times I can actually him playing and the guitar
>> sound is somewhat close to what I expect from him, he does a decent job...
>> still, the album was a bit lackluster in that department to me.
>> My favorite tracks off of it so far are In Cythera and Primobile. I do like
>> Colony Collapse a lot also and Trance would be excellent if not for the
>> excess of keyboards, which is something I feel can be said about most of
>> the songs in MMXII.
>>
>> There are no tracks I dislike here but, apart from In Cythera, there are no
>> tracks I have immediately fell in love with, no track on MMXII did to me
>> what The Great Cull or Here Comes the Singularity did, or Seeing Red and
>> Total Invasion for that matter, which was to bestow upon me that WOW, THIS
>> IS FUCKING MEMORABLE kind of moment.
>>
>> So far this is a 7/10 for me... it may change though, for fuck's sake this
>> was just my first spin. Give it more guitar and less keyboard it might have
>> gotten a 9/10 out of me.
>>
>>
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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 20:42:04 +1300
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fuck yeah, Colony Collapse is my standout track so far!
RRRrockin'!
still need more listens to the whole thing tho, could take a few days to
soak it all up . . .
(oh, thanks for the leak!)
=)
"due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the world has been
postponed indefinitely..."
<ketracelwhite at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Don't know that I've ever heard the Joke do a heavy shuffle - "Colony
> Collapse" kicks Ass!!!
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> On 2012-03-27 04:31:44 +0000 nomeanswhat <nomeanswhat at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Having now finished my first spin of MMXII I can say, I do miss Geordie's
> > guitar... sometimes it is way down in the mix, sometimes it doesn't sound
> > like him at all... the times I can actually him playing and the guitar
> > sound is somewhat close to what I expect from him, he does a decent
> job...
> > still, the album was a bit lackluster in that department to me.
> > My favorite tracks off of it so far are In Cythera and Primobile. I do
> like
> > Colony Collapse a lot also and Trance would be excellent if not for the
> > excess of keyboards, which is something I feel can be said about most of
> > the songs in MMXII.
> >
> > There are no tracks I dislike here but, apart from In Cythera, there are
> no
> > tracks I have immediately fell in love with, no track on MMXII did to me
> > what The Great Cull or Here Comes the Singularity did, or Seeing Red and
> > Total Invasion for that matter, which was to bestow upon me that WOW,
> THIS
> > IS FUCKING MEMORABLE kind of moment.
> >
> > So far this is a 7/10 for me... it may change though, for fuck's sake
> this
> > was just my first spin. Give it more guitar and less keyboard it might
> have
> > gotten a 9/10 out of me.
> >
> >
> > CPJr
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From: Stephen Robinson <heiferboy at robinsonworld.freeserve.co.uk>
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Weakest album since Democracy, there, I've said it.
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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 14:54:11 +0200
From: Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com>
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oooh, harsh words... ;)
Have been blasting it for most of the day and I'm liking everything to
varying
degrees aside from Pole Shift and Fema (finally coming round to Glitch). A
few tracks
are stunning, a few are great and some are ok. But I'm enjoying the variety
- AD was
many versions of the same song plus ESS and Ghosts - whereas this is coming
from many different directions. Half of these songs and half from AD would
have made for
a stunning album - for my tastes, anyway. For now, Trance, Primobile,
Hallows, Cythera and Colony are
on heavy rotation, songs that I think piss all over most of the last 2
albums.
On 27 March 2012 14:24, Stephen Robinson <
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As I've been laboriously documenting in some recent blog posts
(notably the two linked below, if you give a flying fuck), I'm
becoming more and more Luddite-ish and resentful as I grow older,
lamenting the old days when we'd anticipate a new album and then
finally get our hands on it (as a tactile artifact), and then immerse
ourselves in it, track by track and in the chronological order as was
intended by the band. Nowadays, everything is about immediate
gratification and uber-convenience. God forbid you should have to wait
for anything or take your time to experience something in its
uninterrupted wholeness.
As such, I've resisted downloading the leaked record. Sure, I've heard
"Rapture" and the mighty "In Cythera," but I've managed to eschew
hearing anything else. I really want that pristine experience wherein
I am able to enjoy the album from back to front while holding the
artwork in my hands. Call me old fashioned. I don't give a fuck.
But, as I go through my e-mail, I can't help but read some of the
comments from those who have listened. I think it's indeed a testament
to the versatility of Killing Joke that opinions are so divided. After
all, consider the relatively vast shifts in style and sound within the
band's own catalog -- from stentorian guitar crunch and barely human
vocals to elegiac melodies, danceable rhythms and the graceful tolling
of "the bell." Unlike, say, AC/DC, Motorhead or the Ramones (great
bands, all), Killing Joke have never simply been about one solitary
thing.
I'm trying to shut out the opinions until I get my hands on it and
hear for myself ... but hear it the right way.
http://vassifer.blogs.com/alexinnyc/2012/03/retromania-and-the-return-of-the-joke.html
http://vassifer.blogs.com/alexinnyc/2012/03/the-virtual-line.html
Alex in NYC
On Mar 27, 2012, at 8:54 AM, Neil Perry wrote:
> oooh, harsh words... ;)
>
> Have been blasting it for most of the day and I'm liking everything
> to varying
> degrees aside from Pole Shift and Fema (finally coming round to
> Glitch). A few tracks
> are stunning, a few are great and some are ok. But I'm enjoying the
> variety - AD was
> many versions of the same song plus ESS and Ghosts - whereas this is
> coming
> from many different directions. Half of these songs and half from AD
> would have made for
> a stunning album - for my tastes, anyway. For now, Trance,
> Primobile, Hallows, Cythera and Colony are
> on heavy rotation, songs that I think piss all over most of the last
> 2 albums.
>
>
>
> On 27 March 2012 14:24, Stephen Robinson <heiferboy at robinsonworld.freeserve.co.uk
> > wrote:
> Weakest album since Democracy, there, I've said it.
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My reaction exactly.
b
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 14:24, Stephen Robinson
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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 14:26:15 +0100
From: Chris Williamson <laughingchris at hotmail.com>
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Have to agree with Alex on this one. I didn't rip AD and I won't rip this. It goes against my principles (as far as Killing Joke are concerned anyway) and I can wait a week. Not even tempted to be honest
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Subject: Re: [kj] MMXII first listen:
As I've been laboriously documenting in some recent blog posts (notably the two linked below, if you give a flying fuck), I'm becoming more and more Luddite-ish and resentful as I grow older, lamenting the old days when we'd anticipate a new album and then finally get our hands on it (as a tactile artifact), and then immerse ourselves in it, track by track and in the chronological order as was intended by the band. Nowadays, everything is about immediate gratification and uber-convenience. God forbid you should have to wait for anything or take your time to experience something in its uninterrupted wholeness.
As such, I've resisted downloading the leaked record. Sure, I've heard "Rapture" and the mighty "In Cythera," but I've managed to eschew hearing anything else. I really want that pristine experience wherein I am able to enjoy the album from back to front while holding the artwork in my hands. Call me old fashioned. I don't give a fuck.
But, as I go through my e-mail, I can't help but read some of the comments from those who have listened. I think it's indeed a testament to the versatility of Killing Joke that opinions are so divided. After all, consider the relatively vast shifts in style and sound within the band's own catalog -- from stentorian guitar crunch and barely human vocals to elegiac melodies, danceable rhythms and the graceful tolling of "the bell." Unlike, say, AC/DC, Motorhead or the Ramones (great bands, all), Killing Joke have never simply been about one solitary thing.
I'm trying to shut out the opinions until I get my hands on it and hear for myself ... but hear it the right way.
http://vassifer.blogs.com/alexinnyc/2012/03/retromania-and-the-return-of-the-joke.html
http://vassifer.blogs.com/alexinnyc/2012/03/the-virtual-line.html
Alex in NYC
On Mar 27, 2012, at 8:54 AM, Neil Perry wrote:oooh, harsh words... ;)
Have been blasting it for most of the day and I'm liking everything to varying
degrees aside from Pole Shift and Fema (finally coming round to Glitch). A few tracks
are stunning, a few are great and some are ok. But I'm enjoying the variety - AD was
many versions of the same song plus ESS and Ghosts - whereas this is coming
from many different directions. Half of these songs and half from AD would have made for
a stunning album - for my tastes, anyway. For now, Trance, Primobile, Hallows, Cythera and Colony are
on heavy rotation, songs that I think piss all over most of the last 2 albums.
On 27 March 2012 14:24, Stephen Robinson <heiferboy at robinsonworld.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
Weakest album since Democracy, there, I've said it.
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From: Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com>
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Nice blog post Alex and to a degree I'm with you - my girlfriend always
asks why I don't just
download a new LP from itunes instead of adding yet another ugly plastic CD
case (or even
more space-consuming vinyl LP) to the
groaning shelves - and my answer is always the same, I want the physical
product with
the artwork etc etc. Why? I don't really know, my only answer being that
I'm old and this
is what I've always known. Talking to my 17-year-old nephew, who finds it
hilarious that
I still buy vinyl, is always an interesting experience - he loves music (he
is quite an
accomplished guitarist and is in a band) but the actual physical music
products he owns
can fit into a shoebox.
But as for waiting for the official release date and excitedly running home
with a CD/LP
as I once used to do, I guess those days really are over, at least as far
as KJ and a handful
of other bands are concerned. It feels like months since I placed my order
for MMXII and
I've been itching to hear it. Getting to hear the early snippets I equate
with the days when I used
to hole up in my bedroom listening to the John Peel show hoping that he'd
play a new song
from one of my favourite bands a few weeks before the single/album was
actually released -
if I could have gone to Amazon back then to hear a 30-second clip, I would
have.
And I also experienced the same emotions upon seeing the Adorations sleeve
for the first time...
n
On 27 March 2012 15:07, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> As I've been laboriously documenting in some recent blog posts (notably
> the two linked below, if you give a flying fuck), I'm becoming more and
> more Luddite-ish and resentful as I grow older, lamenting the old days when
> we'd anticipate a new album and then finally get our hands on it (as a
> tactile artifact), and then immerse ourselves in it, track by track and in
> the chronological order as was intended by the band. Nowadays, everything
> is about immediate gratification and uber-convenience. God forbid you
> should have to wait for anything or take your time to experience something
> in its uninterrupted wholeness.
>
> As such, I've resisted downloading the leaked record. Sure, I've heard
> "Rapture" and the mighty "In Cythera," but I've managed to eschew hearing
> anything else. I really want that pristine experience wherein I am able to
> enjoy the album from back to front while holding the artwork in my hands.
> Call me old fashioned. I don't give a fuck.
>
> But, as I go through my e-mail, I can't help but read some of the comments
> from those who have listened. I think it's indeed a testament to the
> versatility of Killing Joke that opinions are so divided. After all,
> consider the relatively vast shifts in style and sound within the band's
> own catalog -- from stentorian guitar crunch and barely human vocals to
> elegiac melodies, danceable rhythms and the graceful tolling of "the bell."
> Unlike, say, AC/DC, Motorhead or the Ramones (great bands, all), Killing
> Joke have never simply been about one solitary thing.
>
> I'm trying to shut out the opinions until I get my hands on it and hear
> for myself ... but hear it the right way.
>
>
> http://vassifer.blogs.com/alexinnyc/2012/03/retromania-and-the-return-of-the-joke.html
>
> http://vassifer.blogs.com/alexinnyc/2012/03/the-virtual-line.html
>
> Alex in NYC
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 27, 2012, at 8:54 AM, Neil Perry wrote:
>
> oooh, harsh words... ;)
>
> Have been blasting it for most of the day and I'm liking everything to
> varying
> degrees aside from Pole Shift and Fema (finally coming round to Glitch). A
> few tracks
> are stunning, a few are great and some are ok. But I'm enjoying the
> variety - AD was
> many versions of the same song plus ESS and Ghosts - whereas this is coming
> from many different directions. Half of these songs and half from AD would
> have made for
> a stunning album - for my tastes, anyway. For now, Trance, Primobile,
> Hallows, Cythera and Colony are
> on heavy rotation, songs that I think piss all over most of the last 2
> albums.
>
>
>
> On 27 March 2012 14:24, Stephen Robinson <
> heiferboy at robinsonworld.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Weakest album since Democracy, there, I've said it.
>>
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