[kj] Track-by-track: Killing Joke's Jaz Coleman talks MMXII

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Yes, spot on Neil.

Try googling pole shift and see whether things are heading for the disaster Jaz claims.  Guess what?  The north pole isn't "hurtling" towards Siberia after all.

A lot of what the Joke sing about (for some long while) is just plain silly.  And as Neil says, the world would be a much better place if people worried about the *real* death camps

Jamie







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From: Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [kj] Track-by-track: Killing Joke's Jaz Coleman talks MMXII


Heh well said.
Jaz is an intelligent man so I find it slightly - what's the word - mystifying? - that
he believes this Fema Camp nonsense. The fact is, if you go on YouTube/Google/whatever,
as Jaz urges, you can swiftly discover how the whole thing is a crock of shit. 
The Fema Camp conspiracy theory is one of the more interesting ones in that, as 
with the fake moon landing conspiracy, the effect seems to be that the bigger and more
rediculous the lie is, the more people seem willing to believe it.
Of course, when the conspiracy started they were Clinton death camps, then Bush death
camps, now they are Obama death camps. Funny how all these administrations agreed on
one thing - we really need lots of death camps!
And yet no matter how secret these places are meant to be, people can just drive around, 
film them, put up videos on YouTube and get away with it. Spooky.

The video I posted earlier

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P-hvPJPTi4

is well known, its 17 years old and shows an old train-repair facility which is apparently in
the process of being turned into a new Auschwitz. Listen to the commentary - along the lines of 
"This is a big building, it could be used to process prisoners" - and try to keep a straight face.
The video was shot by this woman

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Thompson_(attorney)

who is, surprise surprise, a bit unhinged. She was disowned by the US militia movement 
because they thought she was too extreme (she planned an armed march on Washington
to put senators on trial for treason).

Glenn Beck, of all people, actually debunked the whole thing here - guess what? It actually
is a train-repair facility.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,513024,00.html

Popular Mechanics also have their own page on it

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/4312850

(see point 3 for the train-repair facility)

This features the infamous photo supposed to be a US death/internment camp. It is actually
a prison camp... in North Korea. If more people got worked up about real death camps instead
of imaginary ones, the world might be a better place.

Well, it goes on and on, its all out there if you want to read up on it. Sorry but this particular
facet of Jaz's paranoia gets on my frigging nerves and I'm pissed off that he's clogging up valuable
album space with boring songs about it. If it had been a great song, I wouldn't have minded so much.

n



On 28 March 2012 23:08, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:


Ever cheerful Jaz. 


Thing is, he laughs alot too!
A very interesting man - I'm glad he's wrong most of the time!






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