[kj] Track-by-track: Killing Joke's Jaz Coleman talks

[GREG SLAWSON]

Exactly, Dominico--every country in the world is participating in global capitalism now (even Cuba, little by little).BTW I also agree w/you about the new album--very consistent and listenable all the way thru, and I don't think it contains any lame tracks (like Democracy did)!Greg
 > From: dominicoc at hotmail.com

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 01:09:04 -0700

> Subject: Re: [kj] Track-by-track: Killing Joke's Jaz Coleman talks

> 

> Yes, it is due to an evolving global capitalist system.  Not only China's 

> shifting capitalist economy, but other countries like India are evolving 

> more into a capitalist economy.  The global economy has shifted to 

> capitalism.

> 

> 

> "Fluke, I think you'll agree you've got part of this backwards. The 

> lessening of wealth is not due to "communist ideals" but capitalist 

> economics. Capitalism has built-in

> competition beteween businesses as well as countries (the political 

> representation of business). Real communism can lead to the expansion of 

> wealth

> because there is no competition, which leads to overproduction of goods, 

> followed by lowering of wages, unemployment, cuts in services (just what is

> happening now in the US and elsewhere). So the shift of wealth from West to 

> East is really a natural process of capitalism and imperialism (e.g. China 

> is growing as an imperialist country).

> Take an obvious historical example--when the USSR was advancing, they were 

> only about 1/2 communist, but they were setting world records for production

> even while the rest of the globe was caught in the Great Depression."

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> From: GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com>

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> Fluke, I think you'll agree you've got part of this backwards. The lessening 

> of wealth is not due to "communist ideals" but capitalist economics. 

> Capitalism has built-in

> competition beteween businesses as well as countries (the political 

> representation of business). Real communism can lead to the expansion of 

> wealth

> because there is no competition, which leads to overproduction of goods, 

> followed by lowering of wages, unemployment, cuts in services (just what is

> happening now in the US and elsewhere). So the shift of wealth from West to 

> East is really a natural process of capitalism and imperialism (e.g. China 

> is growing as an imperialist country).

> Take an obvious historical example--when the USSR was advancing, they were 

> only about 1/2 communist, but they were setting world records for production

> even while the rest of the globe was caught in the Great Depression.

> 

> From: fluke1 at live.co.uk

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:15:10 +0000

> Subject: Re: [kj] Track-by-track: Killing Joke's Jaz Coleman talks MMXII

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> "Besides all this, what?s happening at the moment is you?re getting whole 

> groups of people waking up to the reality of our economic and banking 

> systems that we?ve had in place for hundreds of years. Like this Occupy Wall 

> Street movement ? the dissent that?s growing across the globe, you can see a 

> polarization of values. I think that speculation on extreme life extinction 

> is a waste of time, but what?s really happening is a major shift in our 

> values"

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>    I dont believe that that is the reason.

> The Occupy wall street protests are predominantly First World based , and 

> recently there has been a huge shift of wealth, from West to East .

> Previously First World Countries had the majority of wealth, now that wealth 

> has been spread globally...so theres less to go around

> Descent isnt growing across the globe,, its only growing in Countries that 

> are being adversely affected by the new wealth distribution process.

> This is the effect of the Communist ideals that Jaz adheres too .

> More people sharing the wealth and jobs, so there's less to go around .

> 

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> 

> From: antoni at clara.net

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 21:29:35 +0100

> Subject: [kj] Track-by-track: Killing Joke's Jaz Coleman talks MMXII

> 

> 

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> 

> As posted on one of the FB groups :

> 

> If ever there was a year for a Killing Joke album, this is it. Fearless 

> front man Jaz Coleman gives The Skinny an in-depth guide to the post-punk 

> godfathers' second studio LP in 18 months. Fire up the kettle and strap 

> yourself in...

> Feature by Dave Kerr.

> Published 28 March 2012

> Pole Shift

> I think most people will be familiar with the concept of what a pole shift 

> is, which has happened on our planet so many times. If you look at the 

> historian Herodotus who went to Egypt and talked to the priests there, they 

> told him that the sun had changed from rising in the east to rising in the 

> west four times in their history; we?re due for another one.

> The earth?s geomagnetic current is diminishing in power; the worry is that 

> this is a prelude to a complete pole flip. Magnetic north, you see, is meant 

> to be moving at a rate of two inches every ten years, right now it?s moving 

> at 70km a year. It has left Canada and is now hurtling towards Siberia as we 

> speak.

> The outcome of a flip would mean that the earth would stop going one way, 

> the stars would stand still, then it would move the other way ? causing 

> massive earth displacement, which is like the rocks moving underneath the 

> carpet really fast. If you could imagine the kind of tidal waves that would 

> probably take out most of the coastal cities, meaning that the only real 

> safe places on the planet would be somewhere high above sea level, 

> presumably.

> The thing about a diminishing magnetic field is that, we?re at 0.005 gauss, 

> and if it gets to 0 gauss on planet Earth ? they?ve done tests on what 

> happens to cosmonauts and astronauts under these conditions and it produces 

> random aggression and madness basically. So if you think about places like 

> Cairo, where the great marker peg of the pyramid is, you can see that 

> something abnormal is happening.

> Besides all this, what?s happening at the moment is you?re getting whole 

> groups of people waking up to the reality of our economic and banking 

> systems that we?ve had in place for hundreds of years. Like this Occupy Wall 

> Street movement ? the dissent that?s growing across the globe, you can see a 

> polarization of values. I think that speculation on extreme life extinction 

> is a waste of time, but what?s really happening is a major shift in our 

> values. The things that are dear to us these days ? this ?me? generation, 

> everybody wanting iPhones, material things and more wages ? we need a 

> revolution of the heart.

> To move away from this mode we need to activate the right side of the 

> cerebral hemisphere. We?ve got materialist mode on at the moment, and if we 

> continue going down this path, within seven years we?ll need a new planet 

> that we can rape for resources. So the whole idea of economic growth ? it?s 

> a redundant concept. We should be looking at sustainability and the 

> wellbeing of the human condition above anything. I?m absolutely not a 

> capitalist, I?m not a Marxist either. But I am a communist when it comes 

> down to equal opportunities, divisions of the spoils, I believe that food 

> and water is a human right. It?s not just for the rich.

> FEMA Camp

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> There was some resistance in Germany, for example among students (there's a 

> film about this called something Rose) I think. But unfortunately the German

> Communist Party had a non-revolutionary position and thought the way to try 

> to gain power was thru elections. They did not have the position of

> fighting the Nazis from the start, while they were still small. If they had, 

> the holocaust might not have happened.

> 

> From: fluke1 at live.co.uk

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:38:49 +0000

> Subject: Re: [kj] Track-by-track: Killing Joke's Jaz Coleman talks MMXII

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> "I never thought I?d see such disturbing trends in my lifetime. My father 

> was passionate about being active and fighting the Nazis. I was brought up 

> in the shadow of the last war; for me to see a whole business of 

> concentration camps being built, and very few people speaking out about it 

> except the odd person here and there, well mankind?s taking a dangerous 

> direction.

> If you didn?t speak out about such things I think you?d be a traitor to 

> yourself. I don?t know whether I could live with myself without speaking out 

> ? my father instilled it into me that the biggest evil was the silence of 

> the German people when they knew such dreadful things were happening."

> 

> 

> 

> 

>     That is quite offensive towards German people , the German population 

> were unaware of the existence of concentration camps,. or at least to real 

> reason for their existence , it wasn't until after the war that the full 

> extent of the purpose of concentration camps became known.

> 

>    Don't forget that were are talking about a time before mass communication 

> and even easily accessible telephones .

> 

> Even if some Germans did know what was going on, what could they have done 

> about it ?

> 

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> 

> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:40:25 +1300

> Subject: Re: [kj] Track-by-track: Killing Joke's Jaz Coleman talks MMXII

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> The ?Maori calendar? bit cracked me up. The Maori number system consisted of 

> ?one, two, many? ? good luck with that calendar.

> 

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> 

> 

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On 

> Behalf Of Rob Moss

> Sent: Thursday, 29 March 2012 10:08 a.m.

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] Track-by-track: Killing Joke's Jaz Coleman talks MMXII

> 

> 

> Ever cheerful Jaz.

> 

> 

> 

> Thing is, he laughs alot too!

> 

> A very interesting man - I'm glad he's wrong most of the time!

> 

> On 28 Mar 2012, at 21:29, "pssyche23" <antoni at clara.net> wrote:

> 

> 

> As posted on one of the FB groups :

> 

> 

> If ever there was a year for a Killing Joke album, this is it. Fearless 

> front man Jaz Coleman gives The Skinny an in-depth guide to the post-punk 

> godfathers' second studio LP in 18 months. Fire up the kettle and strap 

> yourself in...

> Feature by Dave Kerr.

> Published 28 March 2012

> Pole Shift

> I think most people will be familiar with the concept of what a pole shift 

> is, which has happened on our planet so many times. If you look at the 

> historian Herodotus who went to Egypt and talked to the priests there, they 

> told him that the sun had changed from rising in the east to rising in the 

> west four times in their history; we?re due for another one.

> The earth?s geomagnetic current is diminishing in power; the worry is that 

> this is a prelude to a complete pole flip. Magnetic north, you see, is meant 

> to be moving at a rate of two inches every ten years, right now it?s moving 

> at 70km a year. It has left Canada and is now hurtling towards Siberia as we 

> speak.

> The outcome of a flip would mean that the earth would stop going one way, 

> the stars would stand still, then it would move the other way ? causing 

> massive earth displacement, which is like the rocks moving underneath the 

> carpet really fast. If you could imagine the kind of tidal waves that would 

> probably take out most of the coastal cities, meaning that the only real 

> safe places on the planet would be somewhere high above sea level, 

> presumably.

> The thing about a diminishing magnetic field is that, we?re at 0.005 gauss, 

> and if it gets to 0 gauss on planet Earth ? they?ve done tests on what 

> happens to cosmonauts and astronauts under these conditions and it produces 

> random aggression and madness basically. So if you think about places like 

> Cairo, where the great marker peg of the pyramid is, you can see that 

> something abnormal is happening.

> Besides all this, what?s happening at the moment is you?re getting whole 

> groups of people waking up to the reality of our economic and banking 

> systems that we?ve had in place for hundreds of years. Like this Occupy Wall 

> Street movement ? the dissent that?s growing across the globe, you can see a 

> polarization of values. I think that speculation on extreme life extinction 

> is a waste of time, but what?s really happening is a major shift in our 

> values. The things that are dear to us these days ? this ?me? generation, 

> everybody wanting iPhones, material things and more wages ? we need a 

> revolution of the heart.

> To move away from this mode we need to activate the right side of the 

> cerebral hemisphere. We?ve got materialist mode on at the moment, and if we 

> continue going down this path, within seven years we?ll need a new planet 

> that we can rape for resources. So the whole idea of economic growth ? it?s 

> a redundant concept. We should be looking at sustainability and the 

> wellbeing of the human condition above anything. I?m absolutely not a 

> capitalist, I?m not a Marxist either. But I am a communist when it comes 

> down to equal opportunities, divisions of the spoils, I believe that food 

> and water is a human right. It?s not just for the rich.

> FEMA Camp

> Your duty to yourself is to click onto YouTube, Google away and do 

> everything you do these days to educate yourself on this. It?s a very 

> disturbing trend. Basically, what?s happening in America is that 800-1000 

> new FEMA camps are being erected, which ? let?s be very clear about this ? 

> are for civilian inmates.

> Everybody in the US ? and I believe in the United Kingdom ? is going to be 

> divided into three colours. ?Red? means that basically you hold 

> anti-establishment views and are a threat to the State, ?Blue? are those who 

> sympathise with the Red people, and ?Yellow? is for cretinous, drone-like 

> workers. So I think we should all be concerned.

> I never thought I?d see such disturbing trends in my lifetime. My father was 

> passionate about being active and fighting the Nazis. I was brought up in 

> the shadow of the last war; for me to see a whole business of concentration 

> camps being built, and very few people speaking out about it except the odd 

> person here and there, well mankind?s taking a dangerous direction.

> If you didn?t speak out about such things I think you?d be a traitor to 

> yourself. I don?t know whether I could live with myself without speaking out 

> ? my father instilled it into me that the biggest evil was the silence of 

> the German people when they knew such dreadful things were happening. This 

> is being repeated again. So, that?s the second track!

> Rapture

> Rapture is the whole reason we don?t go to church and we go to Killing Joke 

> concerts ? the spiritual sucker that we get from the intensity of it. 

> Speaking for myself, this is why I go to a Killing Joke concert, even though 

> I?m on the wrong side of the stage as it were. After a show, I feel an 

> incredible sense of wellbeing. This gives me a greater spiritual strength 

> than any of the options our society provides with organised religion. 

> Rapture?s really about the ecstatic state we seek in our ceremonies at our 

> church that some would call a rock concert.

> <image001.jpg>

> Colony Collapse

> This sounds Wagnerian to me. It?s about the direction that we?re moving in 

> with the rise of nanotechnology and biotechnology. Basically, in a short 

> time, human life will be inseparable from artificial life, and what we?ll 

> have is a situation whereby elite members of human society can live to an 

> age of 300-400 years old, but of course they?ll have no emotional faculties. 

> You?ll have loads of people begging for death in bodies that have no sense 

> of feeling left. Humanity is defined by our ability to have compassion ? to 

> empathise with one another.

> The direction we?re taking with technology will lead us into a condition 

> where there?s nothing about humanity that can be associated with it ? 

> downloading consciousness into reared body parts, or whatever their grisly 

> little vision is. That?s why on each of the verses you have this line 

> ?Beloved mother intervene? and I use Professor Hawking?s quote, saying that 

> ?a virus should count as life.? This is really illustrative of the dreadful, 

> dominant left of cerebral hemisphere attitude ? that a virus should count as 

> life in our modern world. What I conclude at the end of every verse is 

> ?cataclysm, please intervene before this gets out of hand.? The way we?re 

> going is wrong, and the only thing that can right it is cataclysm itself.

> Corporate Elect

> I think this is self-explanatory, isn?t it? In a world where Mr Murdoch can 

> walk in the backdoor at Number 10, and he?s just the tip of the iceberg. 

> Consider this: There are only three countries in the world that don?t have a 

> Rothchild bank ? North Korea, Iran and Cuba?consolidation is nearly 

> complete. So you see, we?re all at the mercy of our corporate masters. We?re 

> looking at the end of the democratic experiment and the beginning of an 

> authoritarian era. Worse ? they?re non-elected, worse again ? they can?t 

> even come under the category of an elite, because they?re fucking bankers! 

> The only thing that can save us is to educate people. You see unrest 

> everywhere, but there?s no music to this movement ? that?s the other 

> interesting thing. We?ve made a dreadful mistake.

> In Cythera

> It?s too painful for me to listen to this track, in a funny way. For people 

> that don?t know, there are two canvases by an artist called Antoine Watteau, 

> one?s in Berlin and the other is in the Louvre in Paris. They both 

> illustrate people leaving a beautiful, sensual, fertile green island, on a 

> boat that?s taking them to grey lands in the distance. One woman?s looking 

> back wistfully on the island of sensuality and it?s this feeling I get every 

> time I have to leave my island, get on tour with Killing Joke and leave 

> everybody I love on the other side of the world.

> It?s not like going from London to Paris when you?re living 100 miles off 

> the coast of New Zealand. It is quite a distance, and you do get this 

> feeling like you never know whether you?re going to make it back and see 

> your children or everything you love again. You just don?t know. The 

> distance impresses this on you.

> Cythera is the island that the mythical Venus or Aphrodite was born on, so 

> all islands are, metaphorically speaking, sacred to Venus or Aphrodite. You 

> can see this in Watteau?s painting. But the song itself is really addressed 

> to the people who, when I?ve literally gone fucking hungry, they?ve put food 

> in my stomach and given me somewhere to stay. That?s what this song?s about. 

> When I say ?I?ll see you in Cythera,? they know what it means.

> Primobile

> This song is about the guys in the band and our relationship with each 

> other. Everything in the band is based on a laugh and very, very black 

> humour ? I?ve said it many times before: when you laugh, when you go through 

> the physiology of laughing, there?s no fear in you at that moment. That?s 

> why the act of laughing and especially black humour is so dear to Killing 

> Joke, so that?s why the chorus goes ?Holy is the laughter that overcomes all 

> your fears.? It?s a metaphor for how we?ve survived the madness really.

> The second verse of that song concentrates on where we are now ? we?re not 

> dead yet ? and what we must do as a band before we go into the next world. 

> It says ?Did you overcome the shadow, confront the rage,? because we?ve all 

> got this fury in us; when we were younger men, society had deemed us 

> worthless and we were angry. There must be a lot of people out there who 

> have left school with no exams and feel as worthless and angry as we did.

> The challenge of what lies in front of us is written in the second verse. 

> ?Will we till the soil and plant a forest for the human race?? It speaks in 

> terms of human activity developing through a non-parasitic mode; that?s why 

> cataclysm is inevitable, because mankind is in a parasitic mode. The earth 

> is not only alive but it?s intelligent, and if you?ve got a load of fleas on 

> you then what the fuck do you do? You want to have a look at a picture of 

> all the space debris round earth ? it looks like ticks or fleas or 

> something, and that?s really quite symbolic of how I see human activity in 

> its current mode.

> So what I?m saying in the second verse is there?s a cut-off point, where the 

> spirit of going on tours and supporting the entertainment industry and all 

> that, that?s gonna change. Instead of having concert halls we?ll have 

> temples. It?ll no longer be for entertainment, it?ll be part of a new 

> socio-religious activity, in the way that Fela Kuti dreamed it, where he set 

> up a temple in Nigeria and on a Friday he would do free concerts and it was 

> all tied into his spirituality.

> Looking at this dreadful situation with the food supply being in shortage, I 

> have a farm, and so the idea of ?digging for victory? as Geordie calls it ? 

> that every parkland, every back garden could be used for food cultivation 

> because we can no longer afford supermarket food and supermarket food is no 

> longer healthy for us because it?s had all the nutrients and vitamins 

> extracted in line with the CODEX program. So it?s this dream of increasing 

> food production and finding another way of living ? not the way I?m living 

> now, not the way I?m touring and going on planes ? not this. This is over. 

> This is finished. There?s a cut-off point.

> Glitch

> Glitch was written in anticipation of the solar storms. We?re so dependant 

> on our computers and satellites ? when the solar storms kick in they?re just 

> fucked, like that. We can?t be so dependant on our current technological 

> system. The song says ?Solar storms have come and chaos rules outside, the 

> freezer?s broke, the foods are off, the GPS has died.? It?s about the 

> madness and stupidity of our current mode. It?s highly temporal and we 

> shouldn?t trust in it. I saw a thing the other day about some kid who was 

> shown a book and was looking for the computer pad. The motherfuckers. The 

> state of this world; we?re so far from past the tipping point. The only 

> thing left is destruction, we can?t go on anymore like this ? I don?t 

> believe it.

> We?re going to have a few shocks, and it doesn?t take much imagination to 

> see what the first one?s going to be ? with Iran and Israel. The question 

> is: will it go nuclear or not? We?re in an incredibly fragile state, all 

> that?s necessary is for Greece to default and send up inflation for the 

> average person. Remember this: in China the average person spends 70% of 

> their income on food. Now, when Greece defaults, inflation will send it up 

> to 90%, which will create social unrest. It?s making the world a very 

> unstable place. You won?t have long to wait for this madness to kick in.

> What we know is it?s worse than the situation with the old Soviet Union and 

> the United States, because at least they had basic communications between 

> the two sides ? there?s no hotline between Tehran and Tel Aviv. Don?t be 

> surprised if you see a nuke going up somewhere in the Middle East this year, 

> just don?t be surprised. The powers that be have already signed off on it, 

> the way I see it, in the same way as in the countdown to the last Iraq war, 

> you could see they?d made their decision and nothing?s gonna stop that. It 

> doesn?t matter if there are weapons of mass destruction or not, the fact is 

> a showdown?s coming. I don?t know what to say about that, except it?s quite 

> clear we haven?t made a Class A civilisation yet, we?re still at war with 

> each other. I think that these nasty things, like a nuke going off or 

> another big disaster would be exactly what certain authorities would like to 

> implement things like implants and to take away the last of our civil 

> liberties. I think th

> ey?ll use shock and fear to accomplish this.

> Trance

> When I?m not doing music I?m interested in the magnetic convergence points 

> on the planet ? they have very peculiar properties. I borrow a gauss machine 

> sometimes and research these convergence points that stone circles mark. 

> This song is really about the idea of putting on concerts within them, or 

> raising energy in these places.

> It?s more about finding a solution than looking at our fears and horrors. 

> It?s a cultural decision. We did one concert in a very strange place, that?s 

> to say one of these areas, in our career. In the Killing Joke documentary 

> you?ll see everybody talking about what happened to us individually when we 

> played it. This initiated my interest in these magnetic grid points that 

> crisscross the planet. I?ve studied these things with Uri Geller and all 

> sorts of people and taken great interest in them. It?s really about trance 

> in the fields of light, it?s about getting to a state of grace in these 

> magnetic convergence points, period.

> On All Hallow's Eve

> This was written about all the people we?ve known who?ve died, and how we?re 

> going to join them. In the same way that the Mexicans celebrate the Day of 

> the Dead, it?s remembering all the people along the way. When we remember 

> them, they come alive in us. It?s animism and ancestor worship, that?s 

> really what this last song is about.

> I love this track so much, because on All Hallow?s Eve ? culturally, in this 

> country, it?s in the Christian church they say prayers for the deceased on 

> this day. This is the time where we would call on our ancestors to guide us 

> through the cold winter to give us advice from the other world.

> In lieu of the fact that all of our fathers are gone now and many of our 

> friends have passed ? including Raven ? this is a song to remember them all. 

> It?s a joyous song, and I find there?s much to live for. But first, one of 

> the biggest problems we face on this planet is having 435 nuclear power 

> stations. In my dreams every last one of them is decommissioned and 

> dismantled. Every last one of 

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