[kj] Hollywood Babylon

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I agree with Adam. Just heard it after about, oh, say, at least 10 or 12 years and though it could be better IMO it sounds good. It's very MathOfChaos w/Whiteout & w/some Savage Freedom remix-whose-name-I-can't recall. The guit-riff is beautiful if tho too solid-body sounding, as someone else has said. (Was Math.Of.Chaos done with a solid-body (LesPaul?)? I can't tell. ) 

Dugmore I've always liked in the band's Panda-Demo-90s-era KJ sound. His drums are not (completely) washed out but instead still add to the overall sound (to the extent Jaz let him, anyway). His playing is less baroque than Atkins' but props and drive the songs thru enough with a strong plod and nice use of the snare, methinks. And although not of KJ, Dugmore was an integral part of the KJ SOUND (2cds, +singles and one-offs). Close enough; I give him credit. I'd thank him if I saw him (which I actually have, indirectly).
Oh, and yeah, it's too long of a song also. So what's new. 

I think the "cheese"/sleaze/controversy of the host-film "Showgirls"  this little diddy attached itself onto all remora-like really has tainted listeners to some extent (I mean, c'mon: her, him,IT!) so it's good a decade or so has past before i heard it again.

Here it is, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XjjK3XF0xc


Now, about Outside The Gate... .. . . 
  . .. I think we'll have to resort to The Doha Debates to decide that one. Right after they settle the issue of Punk Provenance: London v. New York.



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 From: The Stranger <letranger789 at yahoo.com>
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I beg to differ on both points Mr. Moss!

1.  The main guitar riff that comes in right after the intro drum roll is super speedy and complex and reeks of Geordiness!  The tone isn't his usual but I think the playing is pure him.  The riff sounds like a first cousin of the one in Mathematics of Chaos.

2.  I've always liked this tune.  I think the lyrics are brilliant.  Subject matter that no one ever talks about but should - reminds me of the short story "Kreutzer Sonata" by Tolstoy..  The vocal melody and delivery are really strong and I love the dark trancey dancey element of the music..

Then again, I think Outside The Gate is massive.  ;)

Adam


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 From: Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com>
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Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 2:37 AM
Subject: [kj] Hollywood Babylon
 
Just "found" this again. 

2 points. 

1. I'm not convinced its Geordie playing. Could be a youth Jaz thing cos the guitar sounds wrong. 


2.  It's shit. 



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