[kj] The Death & Resurrection Show Premier balls-up

[Rob Moss]

*actual moment

On 13 Jun 2013, at 18:08, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:


> He was!

> 

> Stephane probably doesn't have the actualise my when jaz and paul were reunited (well, he probably DOES!!!) but it was very touching. 

> 

> I can tell you that paul was very nervous. We kidnapped him at the airport and were his bodyguards for the day. Pleased to report he didn't need us!

> 

> On 13 Jun 2013, at 17:35, Dirk Kingerske <kingsnake at hotmail.de> wrote:

> 

>> so jaz was there, was he?

>> 

>> 

>> > Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 18:27:38 +0200

>> > From: frenchyfrenzy at killingjoke.fr

>> > To: gathering at misera.net

>> > CC: gathering at misera.net

>> > Subject: Re: [kj] The Death & Resurrection Show Premier balls-up

>> > 

>> > Thanks again for these further details.

>> > I am quite sure these were the moments I've filmed in Geneva because i was the only one filming (as Rob Moss and his bunch of Bast**** from HeadCunt were too much occupied drinkink heavily in the same room during this memorable moment when they decided to reunite ha ha ha

>> > 

>> > The advertisement for the premiere was using the pic of the 3 laughing partners and Jaz said " you got it ! As i was waiting for a very very long time and it was quite 1or 2 am and the funeral had begun around 5pm the afternoon before....

>> > 

>> > Stephane "Frenchy Frenzy" really looking forward to see the long version of 150 mins

>> > 

>> > Le 13 juin 2013 à 04:15, "Brendan Quinn" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> a écrit :

>> > 

>> > > Re TB & Stephane's questions:

>> > > 

>> > > The doco is largely in chronological order, so it covers Raven joining the

>> > > band, tension starting to build during Night Time / Brighter with BPF saying

>> > > that it became more and more about egos esp after the success of the Night

>> > > Time album and LLB in particular, and you can see it in some of the footage

>> > > from the time as well. Then Outside the Gate - BPF refusing to listen to the

>> > > keyboards while he lays down the drums (obviously the drumming was naff as a

>> > > result)- at this stage I think he wasn't talking to Jaz at all. So the drums

>> > > were replaced entirely and BPF and Raven left the band. 

>> > > 

>> > > Then Big Paul and Raven leaving where Jaz said they wanted a new rhythm

>> > > section (ouch), the different periods where Raven and Youth are in or out,

>> > > Raven leaving to join Ministry (ouch), and it covers his death and

>> > > subsequent events in detail too. 

>> > > 

>> > > There is footage from Raven's funeral, and also interview footage of Big

>> > > Paul talking about what it was like for him during the period when he wasn't

>> > > in the band - I don't want to spoil the doco by providing too much

>> > > information, but obviously it was hard. He discusses what it was like

>> > > rejoining, there's footage of him and Jaz hugging warmly at the funeral etc.

>> > > I was quite surprised that they put the footage of the funeral in, wasn't

>> > > expecting it, it was a nice addition. Then there are some photos of Jaz's

>> > > journey in South India where he took Raven's ashes around various temples

>> > > and finally scattered them in a sacred river.

>> > > 

>> > > Stephane - I'm not sure if there was footage from the Geneva reunion sorry,

>> > > it wasn't mentioned specifically that anything was in Geneva, but it could

>> > > have been...? As I said it's a 2.5 hr long doco, with loads of footage, no

>> > > filler, and also I don't have the world's best memory. Although I have

>> > > noticed a strange correlation lately between how hammered I get at gigs and

>> > > how much I remember, and as I was almost totally sober last night I can

>> > > remember quite a lot of detail. It's one of those things that I think I

>> > > could watch many, many times, at least every year if not more, and I bet

>> > > most of you will feel the same. It's thoroughly entertaining, and as I keep

>> > > saying, the subject matter of the documentary, and the subject matter and

>> > > delivery of the music is serious and earnest enough that when one of the

>> > > band members, Mike Coles, Jaz's Mum, the band's management, various

>> > > journalists, Jimmy Page, Dave Grohl etc makes a funny quip, it's hilarious

>> > > and really servers to break the tension. I guess you could say that Shaun

>> > > has used tension and release quite masterfully, although he had a lot to

>> > > work with because of the great sense of humour in pretty much all of the

>> > > people he interviewed. Oh I should mention there's even footage of that

>> > > infamous night when Jaz and Dave Grohl got pissed in Auckland and tore shit

>> > > up, haha.

>> > > 

>> > > There's a bit of footage of Big Paul back with the band, it doesn't go into

>> > > a lot of detail about the touring and the albums he's been on since, but

>> > > there's a bit there. In fact Big Paul and Youth appear in the doco

>> > > extensively from beginning to end, which is a great addition. I think

>> > > Youth's interviews were shot in 2003, and Big Paul's obviously later - Big

>> > > Paul's comments are more current and poignant for it, and Shaun did mention

>> > > that when they started filming in 2003 obviously they had no idea how it

>> > > would end, and Raven's passing and BPF's rejoining and frankness in his

>> > > interviews added an emotional element to the film.

>> > > 

>> > > They all share a common sense of humour, there's even some funny Geordie

>> > > comments - e.g. re guitar playing - "all the elements come together to make

>> > > something bigger than the sum of the parts - it's like cooking really" Very

>> > > deadpan delivery, another one of those moments when everyone in the cinema

>> > > laughs out loud, there were quite a lot of them. Oh and a great round of

>> > > applause at the end of the doco too.

>> > > 

>> > > Anyway I must stop talking about it because I don't want to spoil it for

>> > > everyone =)

>> > > 

>> > > -----Original Message-----

>> > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On

>> > > Behalf Of T.B.

>> > > Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2013 4:26 a.m.

>> > > To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'

>> > > Subject: Re: [kj] The Death & Resurrection Show Premier balls-up

>> > > 

>> > > Brendan Quinn wrote:

>> > > 

>> > > (snip)

>> > > 

>> > > Bear in mind the premiere was a 150 minute version, which Shaun (the

>> > > director / filmer) said will be whittled down to more like 90 minutes. As a

>> > > fan I didn't find it dragged at all, I felt privileged to be viewing this

>> > > footage and it was both thoroughly entertaining, amusing, and touching at

>> > > times.

>> > > 

>> > > +++++++++++++++

>> > > 

>> > > Does it cover Raven's death, the reunion and subsequent albums and tours

>> > > leading up to at least the last year or so or does it pretty much only go up

>> > > to the mid 2000's where the bulk of footage and interviews took place?

>> > > 

>> > > T.B.

>> > > 

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