[kj] Fleece

[Darren Peace]

Heh! You are the wrong gender, Jane. I think it was the windmiller who got chucked out.


Yes, she had a great time, and astonishingly is not too smug about it.




Darren

Hungerford, UK


Darren A. Peace
Grey Velvet Consulting
07595 763430

On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Mark Kolmar <mkolmar at gmail.com> wrote:

> I've brought up this factor before, a number of years ago. It is worth
> mentioning again. Most tracks from Fire Dances would require tight timing
> and rehearsal. When these were written and recorded, no doubt the album
> reflects a fluency and ease from heavy repetition, or else a good take or
> composite. Keeping in mind that was analog tape, razor, and splice. Few of
> the songs apart from "Frenzy" were played live later. Tracks from Hosannas
> would be more difficult because that album is plainly the product of
> modern, digital compilation or collage. Especially when you compare to the
> live takes. At some point you have to recognize that none of us are the
> same people in the same head space as we had 8 or 31 years ago. That said,
> the KJ catalog has many other likely crowd-pleasers that would not call for
> undue rehearsal or time travel.
> --Mark
> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Darren Peace <darrenpeace at gmail.com> wrote:
>> While I am indeed, Darren Peace, I couldn't make the Bristol gig, but my
>> eldest went and had a splendid time apart from being (accidentally) whacked
>> in the face by one of you lot.
>>
>> Very disappointed to have missed it.
>>
>> Darren
>> Hungerford, UK
>>
>> Darren A. Peace
>> Grey Velvet Consulting
>> 07595 763430
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 11:15 AM, jane.shadforth at shell.com <
>> jane.shadforth at shell.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Not Darren Peace then? His daughter posted a picture of him in a pub on
>>> Facebook along with a picture of the Bristol setlist – obviously I put 2 +
>>> 2 together & got 5??
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> See you next year, Jane
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Gathering [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] *On Behalf Of *
>>> adrianwason at btinternet.com
>>> *Sent:* 20 August 2014 18:52
>>> *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)
>>> *Subject:* Re: [kj] Fleece
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think you enjoy a gig entirely on how you are feeling mentally, of
>>> course the band and setlist does help!
>>>
>>> Jane, I think you may have met another Darren, my m8 is an utter musical
>>> snob and nearly got thrown out of a Bristol Academy Joke gig for arguing
>>> with the mixing desk over the sound,(and the people behind it!) whilst I
>>> walk in Zag Zigs and have got thrown out of a Prong gig for heckling Tommy
>>> Victor, but I haven't got thrown out of a Joke gig yet even if they still
>>> persist to play Pandemonium as the last song-the first time I heard this I
>>> thought it was status quo, like you looking forward to the new stuff in 2015
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Ade!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----Original message----
>>> From : jane.shadforth at shell.com
>>> Date : 18/08/2014 - 12:38 (GMTDT)
>>> To : gathering at misera.net
>>> Subject : Re: [kj] Fleece
>>>
>>>  Hi all – I always think it’s weird how different people’s perception
>>> can be of the same gig.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In Blackpool I was a little too mashed to notice the sound problems, but
>>> the next day, some people told me it was awful & the worst gig they’d ever
>>> attended, (especially after the Stranglers Friday had be clear as crystal
>>> in the same hall). Others though KJ did a blinder & that the sound was so
>>> much better than 2009… I guess all down to where you stood.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Similarly, at Holmfirth, there were areas of the mosh-pit where some
>>> songs became unrecognisable, (beginning of Turn to Red particularly
>>> distorted). We think some sort of sound clash between the monitors to band,
>>> (which were VERY loud), and speakers to audience… Iain, (who was stood near
>>> the mixing desk), however, found the sound to be perfect… It was altogether
>>> loud though, and my ears are still ringing…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And I missed any sinister, rude or miserable audience members at Bristol.
>>> There was one guy in the mosh-pit who couldn’t stay on his feet, and had to
>>> keep being picked back up which was a little annoying, but he was harmless
>>> – just kept bouncing back in and falling over again. He had to be carried
>>> out at some point after hitting his head, but still came back after a
>>> couple more songs, and was still bouncing to the DJ session afterwards,
>>> with very little rhythm – it has to be said ;-)
>>>
>>> Otherwise, I found the atmosphere in the mosh-pit was happy, bouncy &
>>> smily, (as it should be), and I thought the gig was the best of the 3,
>>> (having missed Hebden Bridge). At least the drink ledges have been removed
>>> from those front pillars now – they were so dangerous & I hated them in
>>> gigs.
>>>
>>> As I say – I missed the long faces left of stage, but also don’t
>>> understand why they were there – either move back if you don’t want to bop,
>>> or go home if you are not enjoying it at all…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ade – I am not sure if we’ve met before, (my memory of names/faces is
>>> terrible these days – so apologies to anybody I blank, nod at or look
>>> quizzically at – often I am just trying to remember whether I know the
>>> face, and where from??). I know I’ve met Darren once or twice – so sorry I
>>> missed both of you on Friday…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Not sure about travelling for the In Dub gig, but looking forward to
>>> whenever the next set of full-band gigs are announced, Jane
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Gathering [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
>>> <gathering-bounces at misera.net>] *On Behalf Of *adrianwason at btinternet.com
>>> *Sent:* 17 August 2014 09:50
>>> *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)
>>> *Cc:* gathering at misera.net
>>> *Subject:* Re: [kj] Fleece
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I like a bit of argy bargy down the mosh pit, but as long as we're all
>>> dancing and smiling at each other.
>>>
>>> The best or worst (depending on your inclination) was the Astoria 1991
>>> where there was a savage atmosphere I had friction burns on my arms-that
>>> was brilliant watching the gig was like a work out in itself!
>>>
>>> I think there were a combination of things on Friday night. I hate saying
>>> this but there were a few miserable people down in front of Geordie who
>>> should have been sitting down at the back or something! The whole mosh
>>> shifted over a bit, and there was a portly guy with a beard and pony tail,
>>> who was getting a bit rude, maybe he was trying to protect his girlfriend?
>>>
>>> A Killing Joke gig is always a celebration especially in smaller venues
>>> such as this and people who haven't come to celebrate or are just going to
>>> stand at the front with long faces should just fuck off!
>>>
>>> The important thing is that I think it left everybody counting down the
>>> days till the next gig. IMO this was easily the best performance I've seen
>>> from the reformed original line up.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  ----Original message----
>>> From : vickersms at hotmail.co.uk
>>> Date : 17/08/2014 - 00:21 (GMTDT)
>>> To : gathering at misera.net
>>> Subject : [kj] Fleece
>>>
>>>  The Fleece was another sound performance by the band. I can echo the
>>> sentiment re the mosh. It did spoil an otherwise fine evening.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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