[kj] Fleece

Thu Aug 21 15:40:05 EDT 2014

Remember when your Daughter "met" my sons mate at Hammersmith? When I said"Jordie. You see that girl you are trying to run up against?" "Yeah" "this is her Dad!!"  

When my eldest was about 7 we were at v   My eldest on my shoulders flicking the V's to Raven making him laugh. 

Taken my lads a number of times but the youngest isn't too keen

Eldest still remembers "that funny bloke. The postman". Jon Chapman. Spoiler of Many a kids birthday!!!!

> On 21 Aug 2014, at 19:56, jpwhkj at aol.com wrote:
> 
> So... how many gatherers have taken another generation of their family to see t'Joke?  My dad has seen them a few times (in fact, came to my first ever Joke gig, in '83, plus others up till Pandemonium tour I think), and eldest daughter has also been a few times.
> 
> Jamie
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darren Peace <darrenpeace at gmail.com>
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 17:49
> Subject: Re: [kj] Fleece
> 
> Heh! You are the wrong gender, Jane. I think it was the windmiller who got chucked out.
> 
> Yes, she had a great time, and astonishingly is not too smug about it.
> 
> Darren
> Hungerford, UK
> 
> Darren A. Peace
> Grey Velvet Consulting
> 07595 763430
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Mark Kolmar <mkolmar at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I've brought up this factor before, a number of years ago. It is worth mentioning again. Most tracks from Fire Dances would require tight timing and rehearsal. When these were written and recorded, no doubt the album reflects a fluency and ease from heavy repetition, or else a good take or composite. Keeping in mind that was analog tape, razor, and splice. Few of the songs apart from "Frenzy" were played live later. Tracks from Hosannas would be more difficult because that album is plainly the product of modern, digital compilation or collage. Especially when you compare to the live takes. At some point you have to recognize that none of us are the same people in the same head space as we had 8 or 31 years ago. That said, the KJ catalog has many other likely crowd-pleasers that would not call for undue rehearsal or time travel.
>> 
>> --Mark
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>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Darren Peace <darrenpeace at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> While I am indeed, Darren Peace, I couldn't make the Bristol gig, but my eldest went and had a splendid time apart from being (accidentally) whacked in the face by one of you lot.
>>> 
>>> Very disappointed to have missed it.
>>> 
>>> Darren
>>> Hungerford, UK
>>> 
>>> Darren A. Peace
>>> Grey Velvet Consulting
>>> 07595 763430
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 11:15 AM, jane.shadforth at shell.com <jane.shadforth at shell.com> wrote:
>>>> Not Darren Peace then? His daughter posted a picture of him in a pub on Facebook along with a picture of the Bristol setlist – obviously I put 2 + 2 together & got 5??
>>>>  
>>>> See you next year, Jane
>>>>  
>>>> From: Gathering [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of adrianwason at btinternet.com
>>>> Sent: 20 August 2014 18:52
>>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)
>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] Fleece
>>>>  
>>>> I think you enjoy a gig entirely on how you are feeling mentally, of course the band and setlist does help!
>>>> Jane, I think you may have met another Darren, my m8 is an utter musical snob and nearly got thrown out of a Bristol Academy Joke gig for arguing with the mixing desk over the sound,(and the people behind it!) whilst I walk in Zag Zigs and have got thrown out of a Prong gig for heckling Tommy Victor, but I haven't got thrown out of a Joke gig yet even if they still persist to play Pandemonium as the last song-the first time I heard this I thought it was status quo, like you looking forward to the new stuff in 2015
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Ade!
>>>>  
>>>> ----Original message----
>>>> From : jane.shadforth at shell.com
>>>> Date : 18/08/2014 - 12:38 (GMTDT)
>>>> To : gathering at misera.net
>>>> Subject : Re: [kj] Fleece
>>>> Hi all – I always think it’s weird how different people’s perception can be of the same gig.
>>>>  
>>>> In Blackpool I was a little too mashed to notice the sound problems, but the next day, some people told me it was awful & the worst gig they’d ever attended, (especially after the Stranglers Friday had be clear as crystal in the same hall). Others though KJ did a blinder & that the sound was so much better than 2009… I guess all down to where you stood.
>>>>  
>>>> Similarly, at Holmfirth, there were areas of the mosh-pit where some songs became unrecognisable, (beginning of Turn to Red particularly distorted). We think some sort of sound clash between the monitors to band, (which were VERY loud), and speakers to audience… Iain, (who was stood near the mixing desk), however, found the sound to be perfect… It was altogether loud though, and my ears are still ringing…
>>>>  
>>>> And I missed any sinister, rude or miserable audience members at Bristol. There was one guy in the mosh-pit who couldn’t stay on his feet, and had to keep being picked back up which was a little annoying, but he was harmless – just kept bouncing back in and falling over again. He had to be carried out at some point after hitting his head, but still came back after a couple more songs, and was still bouncing to the DJ session afterwards, with very little rhythm – it has to be said ;-)
>>>> Otherwise, I found the atmosphere in the mosh-pit was happy, bouncy & smily, (as it should be), and I thought the gig was the best of the 3, (having missed Hebden Bridge). At least the drink ledges have been removed from those front pillars now – they were so dangerous & I hated them in gigs.
>>>> As I say – I missed the long faces left of stage, but also don’t understand why they were there –  either move back if you don’t want to bop, or go home if you are not enjoying it at all…
>>>>  
>>>> Ade – I am not sure if we’ve met before, (my memory of names/faces is terrible these days – so apologies to anybody I blank, nod at or look quizzically at – often I am just trying to remember whether I know the face, and where from??). I know I’ve met Darren once or twice – so sorry I missed both of you on Friday…
>>>>  
>>>> Not sure about travelling for the In Dub gig, but looking forward to whenever the next set of full-band gigs are announced, Jane
>>>>  
>>>> From: Gathering [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of adrianwason at btinternet.com
>>>> Sent: 17 August 2014 09:50
>>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)
>>>> Cc: gathering at misera.net
>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] Fleece
>>>>  
>>>> I like a bit of argy bargy down the mosh pit, but as long as we're all dancing and smiling at each other.
>>>> The best or worst (depending on your inclination) was the Astoria 1991 where there was a savage atmosphere I had friction burns on my arms-that was brilliant watching the gig was like a work out in itself!
>>>> I think there were a combination of things on Friday night. I hate saying this but there were a few miserable people down in front of Geordie who should have been sitting down at the back or something! The whole mosh shifted over a bit, and there was a portly guy with a beard and pony tail, who was getting a bit rude, maybe he was trying to protect his girlfriend?
>>>> A Killing Joke gig is always a celebration especially in smaller venues such as this and people who haven't come to celebrate or are just going to stand at the front with long faces should just fuck off!
>>>> The important thing is that I think it left everybody counting down the days till the next gig. IMO this was easily the best performance I've seen from the reformed original line up.
>>>>  
>>>> ----Original message----
>>>> From : vickersms at hotmail.co.uk
>>>> Date : 17/08/2014 - 00:21 (GMTDT)
>>>> To : gathering at misera.net
>>>> Subject : [kj] Fleece
>>>> The Fleece was another sound performance by the band. I can echo the sentiment re the mosh. It did spoil an otherwise fine evening.
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