[kj] Lecture Last Night

Thu Jun 18 09:28:17 EDT 2015

Ha Ha...Amen to that Brendan..Spot on analogy.

On 18 June 2015 at 14:26, Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:

> Jaz Coleman leading a pilgrimage intended to kill the ego is like:
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> From: Gathering [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Tracey
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> Is this spiritual pilgrimage called Pradakshima? I have read about this
> and you have to go to something like 49 different temples in a particular
> order which helps kill the ego. I would really love to do this, but who am
> I kidding. I'm in Australia and it's obviously UK only. I plan on going for
> about 6months and really getting into their culture and staying in small
> villages. Loved hearing about his talk. Cheers Tracey Sent from my iPad
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> > From: nicholas fitzpatrick <gasw30 at hotmail.com>
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