[kj] Youth Hates Hosannas

[Adam Helfer]

Going back to the Raven thread of this. 

There was a show on the NA 2003 tour at  (David Grohls) Black Cat in DC..
Was a dismal night..
Jaz was dead sick, and you could tell the whole band was untethered and miserable..

The stage was like a foot high, and so you were right up on the band- there was no atmosphere, and the lights were on- Jaz not being on his game, he came off like a disheveled Snape 
It was just all a bad combo...

But in the collective cloud of permeating misery, I could sort of sense Raven reveling in it all..
 Perhaps it was just resiliency..

but something that stuck out in my mind...

It also was a show and tour that a handful of marginal fans or curiosity seekers I know, went to- their first, and last show...

Adam




> On Nov 20, 2015, at 12:37 PM, Jay Retro via Gathering <gathering at misera.net> wrote:
> 
> Wasn't Jaz really sick and losing his voice that night? I was at Minneapolis, and deliberately stayed away from the band, as that nasty Texas flu had turned me into the walking dead. I didn't want to be the person who inflicted the Coup de gras on the tour.
> J
>  
> ------------------------------------------- 
> How cruel...and unimaginative!
> 
> From: "adrianwason at btinternet.com" <adrianwason at btinternet.com>
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\) <gathering at misera.net> 
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 11:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [kj] Youth Hates Hosannas
> 
> why was that then?
> 
> 
> ----Original message----
> From : kjlist at live.com
> Date : 20/11/2015 - 16:22 (GMTST)
> To : gathering at misera.net
> Subject : Re: [kj] Youth Hates Hosannas
> 
> The worst Killing Joke gig ever was Milwaukee in 2004. 
> 
> I know,  I was there. 
> 
> Thankfully, they made up for it the next night in Minneapolis.
> 
> 
> From: Gathering <gathering-bounces at misera.net> on behalf of Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 4:36 AM
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> Subject: Re: [kj] Youth Hates Hosannas
>  
> Yes the Koko, that was it. What a grim evening. I remember being briefly excited when the
> drums of Unspeakable started up, as they hadn't played that for a long time, before it descended 
> into 4 minutes of mushy chaos and out-of-tune vocals. Still, you've gotta have the lows to appreciate
> the highs...
> 
> On 19 November 2015 at 19:12, adrianwason at btinternet.com <adrianwason at btinternet.com> wrote:
> that was at the Koko and it was definitely the worst sound I've ever heard at a killing joke gig and that's saying something. I couldn't even make out one of the tracks - which I later by a process of elimination decided was Majestic
> ----Original message----
> From : 65snoopy at gmail.com
> Date : 19/11/2015 - 10:11 (GMTST)
> To : gathering at misera.net
> Subject : Re: [kj] Youth Hates Hosannas
> 
> That's an interesting take on the whole thing. Never thought of it like that.
> 
> When was that gig in Camden when it was just Jaz and Geordie plus two other blokes?
> I thought that really was the end of the line - amazing how such a turnaround happened, considering.
> 
> On 18 November 2015 at 20:55, fatpotanga . <fatpotanga at gmail.com> wrote:
> Totally agree Alex. It's crap and the title video is embarrassing. 
> I have often thought that if Raven hadn't died, they'd have self destructed.
> In some ways ravens metal connections saved them by giving the band a platform and a new audience and his untimely death saved them again, healed wounds and brought everything full circle. A phoenix from the ashes.
> On 18 Nov 2015 18:57, "Alexander Smith" <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Forgive me if it’s already been discussed, but I finally picked up the VIVE LE ROCK issue with the `Joke on the cover (it takes a while for these things to reach the States) and was heartened to hear Youth echo my frequently expressed sentiment that HOSANNAS is a crap record. He blames it on the drinking at the time.
> 
> Alex in NYC
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