[kj] kj] Age of Greed , a Rangecroft sandwich

[Brendan Quinn]

I’m supposed to be studying and recuperating from a triple leg fracture, hence the semi-professional level of procrastination via the gathering (I’m stuck inside on crutches)…here’s something on topic but if I don’t get back to it I’m going to have to self-intervention myself. Fill your boots:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boltzmann_brain 

 

A Boltzmann brain is a hypothesized self aware entity which arises due to random fluctuations out of a state of chaos. The idea is named for the physicist Ludwig Boltzmann (1844–1906), who advanced an idea that the Universe is observed to be in a highly improbable non-equilibrium state because only when such states randomly occur can brains exist to be aware of the Universe. The term for this idea was then coined in 2004 by Andreas Albrecht and Lorenzo Sorbo.[1]

 

The Boltzmann brains concept is often stated as a physical paradox. (It has also been called the "Boltzmann babies paradox".[2]) The paradox states that if one considers the probability of our current situation as self-aware entities embedded in an organized environment, versus the probability of stand-alone self-aware entities existing in a featureless thermodynamic "soup", then the latter should be vastly more probable than the former.

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Gathering [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Paul Rangecroft
Sent: Sunday, 18 October 2015 9:10 p.m.
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Subject: Re: [kj] kj] Age of Greed , a Rangecroft sandwich

 

Peter, you are a silly sausage.

 

I refute your basic axiom. Sentient beings do not pop into existence out of nothing and disappear back into nothing. Birth is not the beginning and death is not the end. If you do believe this however then the argument below is a valid one. Since I don't I can't respond to it.

 

On 10/18/15, P West < <mailto:fluke1 at live.co.uk> fluke1 at live.co.uk> wrote:

> Paul : Animals are breed with the sole intention of being consumed 

> .You not eating meat has caused countless animals not being born 

> .Every bacon sandwich you eat causes pinky and perky to recreate 

> another one .For every bacon sandwich that you dont eat, the effects 

> are that pinky and perky dont get a night of passion and future bacon sandwiches are not produced .

> Paul : If you had a choice of either being born, knowing full well 

> that you would end up in one of my sandwiches or not even being born , which option

> would you choose?   Rest assured , I would use whole mean bread, onions

> lightly fried in worcester sauce , a thinly cut fried tomato and a side dish

> of button mushrooms, also fried in worcester sauce .   You deserve that

> honour of being treated properly

> 

>> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 11:01:43 +0100

>> From:  <mailto:paul.rangecroft at gmail.com> paul.rangecroft at gmail.com

>> To:  <mailto:gathering at misera.net> gathering at misera.net

>> Subject: Re: [kj] kj] Age of Greed

>> 

>> Wasn't it Alex who started this thread by proudly declaring he was in 

>> no way a vegetarian?

>> 

>> I'll never be able to understand how someone can put their own 

>> temporary pleasure above the life of another sentient being but hey 

>> that's just me. Enjoy your countless future animal rebirths.

>> 

>> Even if you don't agree with that, only climate change deniers should 

>> eat meat because the environmental impact is so high.

>> 

>> "You are an inspiration to me..."

>> 

>> On 10/16/15, Mike Cooper < <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk> mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

>> > Not a vegan, but am a veggie.  But can I make the point that 

>> > proportion of people saying that they are meat eaters is way 

>> > greater.  Take a pub scene one person says they are vegan, six will 

>> > then say “they either love meat”

>> > and six will say  or “cannot live without bacon” .

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > I make that 12 to 1.  I rest my case!!!

>> >

>> >

> 

> 

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