[kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 150, Issue 26

Mon Sep 14 14:03:48 EDT 2015

I see. Thanks! I am slowly working my way through Jaz's book, but haven't
got to that nugget yet. Even for conspiracy theorists, The Tavistock
Institute seems an
*extremely* unlikely villain, but maybe that's the point, eh. Perhaps they
shouldn't have
accepted that Rockefeller money in 1946.
But the aforementioned John Coleman was the man who thought The Beatles'
popularity
was an Illuminati plot, so I don't think I'll be looking to him for any
rational theories about anything.
Still, I shall try and retain an open mind, it's the least I can do.
cheers
N

On 14 September 2015 at 18:01, kevin <patrickvieira at msn.com> wrote:

> Neil, I think the basic theory with the Tavistock Institute `Conspiracy
> theories` is that the media is now continually bombarding the general
> public with more and more small regular `shocks` so that the general public
> become more
> or less punchdrunk and desensitised so they end up just not giving a fuck
> about anything and hence the powers that
> be can steamroller ahead with massive changes to society and the average
> joe will just not even care.
> Bombarding people with Breaking News and ALERTS about things they have no
> control over. Also a lot of people believe that many news
> stories-ie-beheadings- are simply staged events. Peruse youtube at your
> leisure to see what I mean.
> Jaz mentios in his book how he was round Jazz Summers flat- which happened
> to be opposite the Tavistock institute in
> Swiss Cottage and he was playing the song `Future Shock` and when it got
> to the line `You can ask my friends from the
> Tavistock` they suddenly became aware of a commotion outside and they
> looked out and saw that a fire had just started in the Tavistock Institute.
> He also mentioned in the lecture he did in London recently that he and
> Nigel kennedy used to shout out from the window
> to the workers there, taking the piss, saying `We know what your doing!`
>
> Kev
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> > Today's Topics:
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> > 1. Re: Pylon on Pledge (Paul)
> > 2. Re: "I Am the Virus" lyric video: FYI (Neil Perry)
> > 3. Re: Pylon on Pledge (T.B.)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 23:26:33 +0100
> > From: Paul <dubecho at gmail.com>
> > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> > <gathering at misera.net>
> > Subject: Re: [kj] Pylon on Pledge
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> >
> > Back in the day, when we were all young and to a certain degree stupid
> > (speaking for myself anyway ..haha), it was something cool to have, in a
> > time when vinyl was the only real format, a funky colour looked great
> and I
> > guess one could have bragging rights or whatever, but with the onset of
> age
> > and the various formats available, I too, could not give a rats ass what
> > the colour is.
> >
> > In the context of Killing Joke, I'm just happy they are releasing
> anything
> > at all. Also, as has been pointed out by others, the colour vinyl, has a
> > worse audio quality.
> >
> > I still remember having some funky coloured UK Subs, Skids and Squeeze
> > singles. Also a Pistols, Japanese import, of Nevermind The Bollocks, with
> > the cover as the vinyl disc picture, it is now a nice clock ...lol
> >
> > It must be an age thing, I don't know, but a "Lenticular cover", means
> fuck
> > all to me either ...lol I just want the music!
> >
> > dub
> >
> > On 12 September 2015 at 23:08, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Am I the only person that really doesn?t care about different colored
> > > vinyl?
> > >
> > > Alex in NYC
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sep 12, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Steve Hackett <
> thepunisher at blueyonder.co.uk>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > If it isn't the case... In what way is it deluxe??
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > On 12 Sep 2015, at 21:08, Simon Usher <louiecipher33 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > *So is the deluxe LP that is on Aamazon not on coloured vinyl and does
> not
> > > have the lenticular sleeve ?*
> > >
> > > *Cause it's hell of a lot cheaper than Pledge.*
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > From: planetary at socal.rr.com
> > > > To: gathering at misera.net
> > > > Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 08:37:36 -0700
> > > > Subject: Re: [kj] Pylon on Pledge
> > > >
> > > > Gathering [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
> > > <gathering-bounces at misera.net>] On Behalf Of Rheinhold
> > > > Squeegee wrote:
> > > >
> > > > FWIW, the "deluxe" LP also has a "lenticular" cover and "translucent"
> > > vinyl.
> > > >
> > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > >
> > > > It would be nice if they included some copies of the deluxe LP in
> black
> > > > vinyl as an audiophile pressing. I'll be buying both the standard and
> > > > deluxe versions just to get the main album on black vinyl in
> hopefully
> > > > decent quality. Multiple copies of MMXII I've bought were warped and
> > > > Absolute Dissent just sounds like ass, I have flexidiscs that sound
> > > better.
> > > > Basically, I have not been impressed with the quality of the
> pressings of
> > > > *any* KJ album since Hosannas with the one exception being the "In
> Dub"
> > > set
> > > > which was dead quiet and of really exceptional quality. I think a
> lot of
> > > it
> > > > has to do with the poor quality (various colored) vinyl they've been
> > > using
> > > > the past decade.
> > > >
> > > > T.B.
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2015 01:15:28 +0200
> > From: Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com>
> > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
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> > Subject: Re: [kj] "I Am the Virus" lyric video: FYI
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> > Was curious about the line 'Tavistock manufactured shocks' in the lyric
> > video.
> >
> > First link that comes up is this:
> >
> > http://ionamiller.weebly.com/tavistock-agenda.html
> >
> > Psyops, social engineering, mass mind control... suffice to say, it is
> > another trip
> > through the conspiracy wormhole. Haven't read the whole thing yet but if
> you
> > scroll down, there is this:
> >
> >
> >
> > *Former MI6 Intelligence officer John Coleman first exposed their covert
> > activities with his insider knowledge in The Tavistock Institute of Human
> > Relations: Shaping the Moral, Spiritual, Cultural, Political, and
> Economic
> > Decline of the United States of America: ?The enemy is clearly
> identifiable
> > as the Committee of 300, the Club of Rome, NATO,the Black Nobility, CFR
> and
> > all of its affiliate organizations, the think tanks, and research
> > institutes controlled by Stanford and ? last, but certainly not least,
> the
> > military establishment.?*
> >
> > I'm assuming Mr John Coleman is not a relative.
> >
> > On Wikipedia:
> >
> > In popular culture the Tavistock Institute is often associated with
> > conspiracy theories, the most popular of which link it to The Beatles
> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beatles>.
> > The *Rough Guide to Conspiracy Theories* notes that the Tavistock
> Institute
> > has been named by some theorists in their worldviews, including having a
> > part in "The most extravagant anti-Illuminati conspiracy theory" of John
> > Coleman "known as [the] 'Aquarian Conspiracy'.
> >
> > Hmm.
> >
> > On 12 September 2015 at 12:06, jpwhkj--- via Gathering <
> gathering at misera.net
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, spot on.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Nick Scott <npscott at blueyonder.co.uk>
> > > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <
> gathering at misera.net
> > > >
> > > Sent: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 17:45
> > > Subject: Re: [kj] "I Am the Virus" lyric video: FYI
> > >
> > > Brilliant heads up...and glaringly shows that KJ should never do
> anything
> > > without including the brilliance of Mike Coles.
> > >
> > > On 11 September 2015 at 15:09 Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4wdbibV3IM
> > > Killing Joke - I Am The Virus (Lyric Video)
> > > Killing Jokes's lyric video for ?I Am The Virus' from the album,
> ?Pylon' -
> > > available via Spinefarm Records 23rd October 2015. Pre-order the album
> &
> > > exclusive...
> > > Watch now...
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 16:24:33 -0700
> > From: "T.B." <planetary at socal.rr.com>
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> > Simon Usher wrote:
> >
> > So is the deluxe LP that is on Aamazon not on coloured vinyl and does not
> > have the lenticular sleeve ?
> > Cause it's hell of a lot cheaper than Pledge.
> >
> > +++++++++++++++++
> >
> > I am assuming the two versions of the vinyl album listed on Amazon are
> the
> > same as what's being offered on Pledge.
> >
> > Ordering the regular and deluxe vinyl albums and the deluxe cd, at least
> for
> > us in the USA it comes out to $101.53 on Pledge vs about $140 (using
> Global
> > Priority shipping) from Amazon UK. Just ordering the Deluxe vinyl album
> by
> > itself compares as $66 via Pledge vs $85 from Amazon (Global Priority).
> > Using Amazon's Standard shipping cuts it way down to $55.00 but I would
> > *not* recommend anyone in the US use Amazon UK's standard shipping
> > especially for vinyl albums.
> >
> > A word of caution about ordering from Pledge for those here in the US -
> > yesterday I tried ordering the two album versions and the deluxe cd and
> two
> > different credit cards wouldn't go through. Within hours, both CC
> companies
> > called me alerting me to "suspicious activity" due to (my) attempt to buy
> > from the site. Apparently Pledge or whatever business in the UK that will
> > be fulfilling these orders, at least for us in the US is on some sort of
> > watch list by major CC companies due to numerous fraud complaints and if
> you
> > want to go ahead and place the order, you need to specifically call your
> CC
> > company during the week to tell them you want to make a legitimate
> purchase
> > from that site. I almost simply used my Paypal account but held off when
> I
> > realized Amazon apparently will carry the same items. What a pain in the
> > ass.
> >
> > At this point, I don't know which option I will go for right now - I'm
> > holding off for a bit before deciding. I'm pretty confident if I order
> from
> > Pledge, I will get whatever versions I chose and pay for. However, I've
> > heard some bad stories about how poorly the last KJ project was packaged
> and
> > they probably will take forever to get here. My "Down By The River"
> CD/DVD
> > took about a month from the date it was shipped. Amazon on the other hand
> > may not get a decent allotment of the Deluxe LP resulting in it being
> "out
> > of stock" right away and shipping everything else regardless. Plus, they
> > are going to be much more expensive with overseas shipping.
> >
> > I really hope What Records will carry all the versions as I've always had
> > great service from them.
> >
> >
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