[kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 160, Issue 17
kevin
patrickvieira at msn.com
Sun Jun 26 09:08:32 EDT 2016
Re the Brexit vote : it will sure be interesting to hear the views of the band on it and I'm sure it won't be long before that happens. There are a lot of issue's to be considered for sure.
It's well known that Geordie is a big believer of a united Europe and I got a copy of that Rifkin book but I ain't got round to reading it yet so can't comment -it's also interesting to note that Jaz has stated he believes in a one world government but not of the type that has been being pushed ie a hegemony of global elitists. This is one reason that many people wanted out of the EU as they feel it is one step closer to a global hegemonic dictatorship - not purely because they are backward thinking xenophobic little islanders -there are millions all over Europe who don't support the EU as it is. Personally I feel that if the current EU breaks up it could actually bring Europe closer together in the long term -we have the civility and technology to work with each other and make our own deals without a centralised cash cow behemoth. I feel at the moment we are seeing the 'Princess Diana Days ' reaction to the vote with the associated knicker wetting, hysteria, panic and knee jerk reactions. Also I noted a few months ago there was a video of Jaz who was quite emotionally talking about how the Czech Republic should take more refugees and it appeared to have been filmed when he had just returned to Prague, then there was another one a couple of months later where he was sounding much more conciliatory and recognised the issue of population replacement being used as a weapon against nations which had obviously been recorded after he had been speaking to people and considering alternative viewpoints.
He does state clearly in his book that he believes it is possible to hold 2 completely contradictory viewpoints at the same time -which I kind of understand.
It's going to be interesting for sure.
One thing I will say is that I'd never dream that all Killing Joke fans were all blindly in support of something -Absolute Dissent.
Kevin
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Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 09:31:30 +0100
From: Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com>
To: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>, "A list about all things
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Can we do France quicker through?
Just to see how it goes?
> On 25 Jun 2016, at 23:07, Jim Harper via Gathering <gathering at misera.net> wrote:
>
> Thankfully we won't be cut off from the rest of the continent for at least two years...
>
> Jim.
>
>
> On Sat, 25/6/16, Christophe Barry <christophe.barry at wanadoo.fr> wrote:
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> Subject: Re: [kj] Unsubbed?
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Saturday, 25 June, 2016, 22:37
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> OhI
> thought it was because i was that side of the channel that i
> did not received anything since last Thursday.
> De : Gathering <gathering-bounces at misera.net>
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>
> Quiet, I think...25.6.2016 3.34
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Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 09:33:52 +0100
From: Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com>
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There's not much chat here at all is there?
Brexit was a disaster. Cameron traded our future for the right wing vote at the general election and then he ran away.
It will be interesting to see how other nations in Europe react. My Dutch colleagues tell me that there is a strong movement there for a referendum.
> On 25 Jun 2016, at 23:29, Daniel Corvo <danielcorvo at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I was surprised about the lack of Brexit debate on here, especially when the band has been vocal in their support of the European project. Absolutely gutted about the result...
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On 25 Jun 2016, at 23:07, Jim Harper via Gathering <gathering at misera.net> wrote:
>>
>> Thankfully we won't be cut off from the rest of the continent for at least two years...
>>
>> Jim.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 25/6/16, Christophe Barry <christophe.barry at wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Unsubbed?
>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
>> Date: Saturday, 25 June, 2016, 22:37
>>
>> OhI
>> thought it was because i was that side of the channel that i
>> did not received anything since last Thursday.
>> De : Gathering <gathering-bounces at misera.net>
>> on behalf of Jari Pakarinen <jari.t.pakarinen at gmail.com>
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>> Date :
>> samedi 25 juin 2016 09:25
>> ? : Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
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>> Re: [kj] Unsubbed?
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>> Quiet, I think...25.6.2016 3.34
>> "Ketracel White" <ketracelwhite at hotmail.com>
>> kirjoitti:
>> Hi
>> Andreas - I haven't received any Gathering
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Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 11:41:54 +0300
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No referendum in Finland stated by our PM. I'm happy for it...
26.6.2016 11.39 ap. "Rob Moss" <rob.moss at gmx.com> kirjoitti:
> There's not much chat here at all is there?
>
> Brexit was a disaster. Cameron traded our future for the right wing vote
> at the general election and then he ran away.
>
> It will be interesting to see how other nations in Europe react. My Dutch
> colleagues tell me that there is a strong movement there for a referendum.
>
> > On 25 Jun 2016, at 23:29, Daniel Corvo <danielcorvo at hotmail.co.uk>
> wrote:
> >
> > I was surprised about the lack of Brexit debate on here, especially when
> the band has been vocal in their support of the European project.
> Absolutely gutted about the result...
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On 25 Jun 2016, at 23:07, Jim Harper via Gathering <
> gathering at misera.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thankfully we won't be cut off from the rest of the continent for at
> least two years...
> >>
> >> Jim.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, 25/6/16, Christophe Barry <christophe.barry at wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> >>
> >> Subject: Re: [kj] Unsubbed?
> >> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <
> gathering at misera.net>
> >> Date: Saturday, 25 June, 2016, 22:37
> >>
> >> OhI
> >> thought it was because i was that side of the channel that i
> >> did not received anything since last Thursday.
> >> De : Gathering <gathering-bounces at misera.net>
> >> on behalf of Jari Pakarinen <jari.t.pakarinen at gmail.com>
> >> R?pondre ? :
> >> "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> >> band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> >> Date :
> >> samedi 25 juin 2016 09:25
> >> ? : Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
> >> Objet :
> >> Re: [kj] Unsubbed?
> >>
> >> Quiet, I think...25.6.2016 3.34
> >> "Ketracel White" <ketracelwhite at hotmail.com>
> >> kirjoitti:
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Yup. Cameron has been a disgrace. You don't want to lose your house, you
don't throw your door key into the pot. All for the sake of his career
and another 4 years at the top. "I love this country" he said as he leapt
from the ship.
and blatant lies from the Leave campaign are equally disgusting. I know
several people who voted leave, purely based on the NHS ?350m pledge that
turned out to be a 'mistake' the very day the result was declared.
Deliberately misleading the electorate should be punishable by law and
surely nullifies a proportion of the vote..
I think the result was a surprise to all sides, and if it was held again
tomorrow, I think it'd probably be a very different outcome.
Anyway, onwards....
On Sunday, 26 June 2016, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:
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> Brexit was a disaster. Cameron traded our future for the right wing vote
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Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 10:25:21 +0000 (UTC)
From: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>
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I have to agree. It was a clumsy ploy for votes that he obviously regretted about five minutes later. And now we're screwed.
Jim.
On Sun, 26/6/16, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:
There's not much chat
here at all is there?
Brexit was a disaster. Cameron traded our
future for the right wing vote at the general election and
then he ran away.
It will
be interesting to see how other nations in Europe react. My
Dutch colleagues tell me that there is a strong movement
there for a referendum.
> On 25 Jun 2016, at 23:29, Daniel Corvo
<danielcorvo at hotmail.co.uk>
wrote:
>
> I was
surprised about the lack of Brexit debate on here,
especially when the band has been vocal in their support of
the European project. Absolutely gutted about the
result...
>
> Sent
from my iPhone
>
>> On 25 Jun 2016, at 23:07, Jim Harper
via Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
wrote:
>>
>>
Thankfully we won't be cut off from the rest of the
continent for at least two years...
>>
>> Jim.
>>
>>
>> On Sat,
25/6/16, Christophe Barry <christophe.barry at wanadoo.fr>
wrote:
>>
>>
Subject: Re: [kj] Unsubbed?
>> To:
"A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
<gathering at misera.net>
>> Date: Saturday, 25 June, 2016,
22:37
>>
>>
OhI
>> thought it was because i was
that side of the channel that i
>> did
not received anything since last Thursday.
>> De :? Gathering <gathering-bounces at misera.net>
>> on behalf of Jari Pakarinen <jari.t.pakarinen at gmail.com>
>> R?pondre ? :
>> "A list about all things Killing
Joke (the
>> band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
>> Date :
>>
samedi 25 juin 2016 09:25
>> ? :?
Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
>> Objet :
>> Re:
[kj] Unsubbed?
>>
>> Quiet, I think...25.6.2016 3.34
>> "Ketracel White" <ketracelwhite at hotmail.com>
>> kirjoitti:
>>
Hi
>> Andreas - I haven't received
any Gathering
>> correspondence in
over a week. I'm wondering if I was
>> unsigned, or if it's just been
very quiet.
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>> Thanks for
you help!
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Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 11:35:16 +0100 (BST)
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i can't believe this has happened and the division it is causing in the local community. The general rule of thumb in Wales where I currently live is that uneducated people voted to leave(so that's most of Wales) and older people who have probably enjoyed a fine living because of consequences of the British Empire voted out .My wife has actually taken phone-calls from people saying isn't it great to which she has promptly replied why don't you drape your house in Union Jacks. There is a prime example where Aston Martin decided to build their rather silly new off road sports-car in a very rural part of SE Wales but are now looking towards Spain, so its black and white. I thought David Cameron was a good Prime Minister but unfortunately he put his cock on the block to prove a point which of course he grossly miscalculated.Mind you the pig stories probably didn't do him any favours!
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No referendum in Finland stated by our PM. I'm happy for it...
26.6.2016 11.39 ap. "Rob Moss" <rob.moss at gmx.com> kirjoitti:
There's not much chat here at all is there?
Brexit was a disaster. Cameron traded our future for the right wing vote at the general election and then he ran away.
It will be interesting to see how other nations in Europe react. My Dutch colleagues tell me that there is a strong movement there for a referendum.
> On 25 Jun 2016, at 23:29, Daniel Corvo <danielcorvo at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I was surprised about the lack of Brexit debate on here, especially when the band has been vocal in their support of the European project. Absolutely gutted about the result...
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 25 Jun 2016, at 23:07, Jim Harper via Gathering <gathering at misera.net> wrote:
>>
>> Thankfully we won't be cut off from the rest of the continent for at least two years...
>>
>> Jim.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 25/6/16, Christophe Barry <christophe.barry at wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Unsubbed?
>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
>> Date: Saturday, 25 June, 2016, 22:37
>>
>> OhI
>> thought it was because i was that side of the channel that i
>> did not received anything since last Thursday.
>> De : Gathering <gathering-bounces at misera.net>
>> on behalf of Jari Pakarinen <jari.t.pakarinen at gmail.com>
>> R?pondre ? :
>> "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
>> band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
>> Date :
>> samedi 25 juin 2016 09:25
>> ? : Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
>> Objet :
>> Re: [kj] Unsubbed?
>>
>> Quiet, I think...25.6.2016 3.34
>> "Ketracel White" <ketracelwhite at hotmail.com>
>> kirjoitti:
>> Hi
>> Andreas - I haven't received any Gathering
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