[kj] Trump

[jpwhkj at aol.com]

Yes - Margaret Thatcher promised to bring unity where there was discord, Dubya's speech in 2000 was similarly reconciliatory.  So it's standard stuff.


That said, as Obama pointed out, the peaceful transition from one president to another - no matter how much they disagree - is the hallmark of democracy.  So, much as I regret the result, and its likely impact on America and the rest of the world, it's democracy folks.  Just gotta work harder to make the world a better place - more intelligent and more informed, more thoughtful, kinder.  Most of us can't be Mandela, MLK, etc, but we all have the opportunity to make the world a bit better tomorrow than it is today.


But yeah, I'm ashamed of the bigotry, hatred, & narrow-mindedness that's been tapped into and legitimised.


Jamie



-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Rangecroft <paul.rangecroft at gmail.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
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Thank you, Alex, for brilliantly summing up how I feel.Most victors give those reconciliatory sort of acceptance speeches. Idon't think they mean much. The morally-bankrupt thundercunt's egowill be through the White House roof. What did he have to do to lose?This election would have been more dignified if the respective partieshad put up an actual donkey and elephant as candidates. I don'tunderstand people anymore. Brexit was embarrassing but this has...well, Trumped it. The ancient Chinese could never have imagined timesso "interesting". So many Killing Joke lyrics come to mind I don'tknow which one to quote.We're fucked. Democracy: ya foired!On 11/9/16, Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:> I realize there are some sharp differences of opinion here on the Gathering,> but as someone who fucking LIVES here, let me just say that I am> incalculably ashamed to be an American today.>> Regardless of your stance on policy -- not that Trump ever actually> discussed any tangible policies -- how anyone could spend five minutes> listening to that fatuous bag of excitement attempt to string coherent> sentence together and think: "yes, that man should hold the most powerful> office in the so-called Free World" is FUCKING STAGGERINGLY BEYOND MY> COMPREHENSION.>> If you think he's a champion for the unsung ---> You are FUCKING FOOLING> yourselves. He DOES NOT CARE about you, and that will doubtlessly become> obvious in short, catastrophic order.>>>> If you think he's going to "shake things up" in Washington -----> You are a> fucking idiot. Putting Trump in the White House is like putting a lit> firecracker in a broken toaster. Is it going to shake things up? You betcha.> Is it going to fix anything? NOPE.>> The message we are sending to the world and to OUR OWN CHILDREN is that> racism, antisemitism, proud anti-intellectualism, nativism, white> supremacist ideals, misogyny, sexism, homophobia, the diminishment of a> woman's right to choose, bullying, demagoguery, incitement of violence,> avarice, wanton tax evasion, totalitarianism, climate change denial and> creationism ARE ALL PERFECTLY OKAY.>> If you're an American who voted for him here on the Gathering, you have> nothing but my undying contempt, and may the god of your choice forgive you,> because I sure as FUCK will not.>> I have many friends who are striving to make sense of this and espousing> messages of solidarity, fortitude and hope. I realize that's the correct> thing to do, and that in attempting same, I may find solace and comfort in> the words and actions of the many like minds, but I AM NOT THERE YET.> NOWHERE CLOSE.>> Being a dyed-in-the-wool native New Yorker, I have never had a great amount> of faith in my fellow American, because I am inherently a smug fucking snob,> and I am PERFECTLY OKAY WITH THAT. But, again, DO NOT BE FOOLED!! Trump> doesn't give fuck about the concerns of the American heartland's working> families. They were exploited and manipulated by his slavish appeals to the> lowest common denominator.>> It's simply pathetic. I am sickened to the very core.>> FUCK YOU, America.>> -Alex in NYC->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----->> From: Christophe Barry>> Sent: Nov 9, 2016 11:57 AM>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)">> Subject: Re: [kj] Trump>>>> F*ckin’ ada>>>> De : Gathering <gathering-bounces at misera.net> on behalf of andreas misera>> via Gathering <gathering at misera.net>>> Répondre à : andreas misera <andreasmisera at yahoo.de>, "A list about all>> things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>>> Date : mercredi 9 novembre 2016 09:58>> À : "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)">> <gathering at misera.net>>> Cc : andreas misera <andreasmisera at yahoo.de>, "jpwhkj at aol.com">> <jpwhkj at aol.com>>> Objet : Re: [kj] Trump>>>> Germans could say "Ach Du Scheiße" about that result.>>>>>> Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com> schrieb am 12:44 Mittwoch, 9.November 2016:>>>>>> That's an "English" way of putting it!!>>>> Other words considered could be>>>> Gosh>> Golly>> my Lord!>> Steady on old chap!>>>>>>>> What a day Gatherers. What a day.>>>>>> On 9 Nov 2016, at 09:19, jpwhkj--- via Gathering <gathering at misera.net>>> wrote:>>>>> Blimey.>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________>>> Gathering mailing list>>> Gathering at misera.net>>> https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering>>>>>> _______________________________________________>> Gathering mailing list>> Gathering at misera.net>> https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering>>>>>> _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list>> Gathering at misera.net https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering_______________________________________________Gathering mailing listGathering at misera.nethttps://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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