[kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 165, Issue 39 Brendan Message 1

Thu Nov 10 08:34:38 EST 2016

“But
.but
how will the memes survive if we don’t replicate them all
Mummy?
GASP! Is that a Bullshit Detector you’re hiding under your
.but that’s
.”

I knew logging in to Facebook was a dumb move, suspected the same with The
Gathering, and it took all of ten seconds to prove myself right. 

I’ve watched and read so much about this and related topics (thousands of
hours’ worth), and seen practically NONE OF IT hit the MSM, preoccupied with
their orgy of triviality, obsessing over a fraction of Trump’s comments,
entirely avoiding the fact that Clinton’s actions contradict her lies, and
Trump’s comments state the opposite of the script we’re all supposed to be
reading from (corny emphasis intentional
)

Exactly as you stated, one of the most blatant examples is the candidates’
stance on Russia, which any high-school newsletter writer—let alone
‘professional journalist’ (say that without a fucking sneer)—worth their
salt would be expected to pick up on. 

But THANK GOD we’ve got intellectual juggernauts like Robert de Niro to
weigh in with their considered opinion

The  hypocricy  and general lack of self awareness is mind boggling.

Hence the tenor of my emails
I’m SO SICK of the fire-hose-on-full-blast
stream of fucking bullshit from the ‘media’ (shills almost to a man),
parroted by conscientious little fucking meme replicators (“just some stupid
email diversion kinda ploy by Trump—IGNORE IT!”) and the Social Sanction
Police, on constant alert against Narrative Transgressors, ready to flick
out flaccid one-liner rebukes about THE TENOR OF YOUR MESSAGE and WHAT
BINARY PRE-DEFINED CATEGORY THAT PUTS YOU INTO *nods knowingly* and honest
to fucking God seem to think that constitutes a point LET ALONE AN ARGUMENT.

You’d think people would be sick of being led around by their nose-rings
through a circus sideshow Willy Wonka Boatride of delusional bullshit by
corporate sell-outs, but the sad fact is they buy into it so much they join
the club and go door-knocking to convince other moo’ing idiots to join the
herd
and moo sternly in your general direction if you step out of line.

And they’re STILL in the dark about the election; who won, WHY, the turnout,
why Trump’s not the issue, why Putin’s not the issue, how this ties into
Brexit, hrm I guess we did kinda get TOTALLY FUCKING SCREWED FOR FALLING FOR
OBAMA <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61_oTVxSVWU> 
TWICE
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnByPYnqq7s> 
desperately flailing about
for Someone In Charge to hand them a new script, God forbid they have to
wing it and demonstrate the results of what’s (not) going on in that empty
echo chamber

What a fucking JOKE <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7UVOay0GQw> . 

From: Gathering [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of kevin
Sent: Friday, 11 November 2016 12:31 a.m.
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 165, Issue 39 Brendan Message 1

I`m with you Brendan.

We are in the Princess Diana car crash days of mass hysteria and knee jerk
knicker wetting.

We had a candidate who was openly rattling the sabre at Russia (a very
psychopathic game) whilst the 

other candidate has been openly making overtures toward making peace with
them and now people are talking

about Trump creating a third world ward when he is talking about scaling
things back.

He has had the whole corrupt media apparatus-that anarchists are so fond of
being `wise to`-against him and those self same 

anarchists etc are citing that as the reason why it is just UNTHINKABLE that
Trump could be elected.

The  hypocricy  and general lack of self awareness is mind boggling.

The same anarchists and leftists who were such a central part of the
`Occupy` movement are now openly weeping and kicking off in

the streets because the candidate who was bought and paid for by Goldman
Sachs didn't get in.

The same people who go on anti Globalisation demos are now kicking off
because the Globalisation candidate didn`t get in.

The same people who have been demanding `change` and an `end` to corrupt
politicians are now terrified because Trump is `not a politician.`

Most people are shocked by this result because they really haven`t been
paying any attention- many people could see this coming a mile off  -

The reason so many people are shocked is because they are stuck on Facebook
and Twitter getting a repetitive loop of similar information from their
friends 

 and getting their information from BBC News and The Guardian and all the
rest of the bought and paid for  global media.

We live in a world where its never been easier to get hardore information
from people seriously boned up on things and complete alternative

opinions to the mainstream spoon fed garbage- and all I see is people
posting up Guardian shite like `Johnny Marr on 10 reasons we simply MUST
stop Trump.`

 Its a complete controlled echo chamber and you need to get your head out of
it.    

Its funny- people watch dystopian films like 1984 and Faranheit 451 and they
always like to assume that if such a situation

existed then they would be the person on the outside, they would be the
rebel who could see what was going on. Well here

we are right in the middle of a crazymaking dystopia  like something out of
a 60`s science fiction novel and people are all 

blind to it.

  _____  

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   1. Re: Trump (Brendan Quinn)
   2. Re: Trump (Paul Owens)

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Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2016 23:16:10 +1300
From: "Brendan Quinn" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz
<mailto:bq at soundgardener.co.nz> >
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'"
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Subject: Re: [kj] Trump
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That said, as Obama pointed out, the peaceful transition from one president
to another - no matter how much they disagree - is the hallmark of
democracy.  

BULLSHIT! Stop buying into platitudes and dead metaphors?and READ WHAT YOU
JUST WROTE. So the most laudable act of a democratic citizen is to ensure
the peaceful transition of power from one despot to another?!

Obama?s a fucking joke, he?s flushed the US Constitution down the shitter
and here you are lapping up his GOBSHITE DRIVEL. 

The GroupThink / meme replication going on is beyond a fucking joke for a
group of supposed counter-culture / free thinkers / subversives /
whatever?I?m so sick of this false fucking narrative.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribune_of_the_Plebs 

 <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribune_of_the_Plebs> 

 <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribune_of_the_Plebs> Tribune of the Plebs -
Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Tribunus plebis, rendered in English as tribune of the plebs, tribune of the
people, or plebeian tribune, was the first office of the Roman state that
was open to the ...

The checks and balances on power have utterly gone down the gurgler, how
anyone in the US could mention they?re a journalist without blushing is
totally beyond me.

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Subject: Re: [kj] Trump

Yes - Margaret Thatcher promised to bring unity where there was discord,
Dubya's speech in 2000 was similarly reconciliatory.  So it's standard
stuff. 

That said, as Obama pointed out, the peaceful transition from one president
to another - no matter how much they disagree - is the hallmark of
democracy.  So, much as I regret the result, and its likely impact on
America and the rest of the world, it's democracy folks.  Just gotta work
harder to make the world a better place - more intelligent and more
informed, more thoughtful, kinder.  Most of us can't be Mandela, MLK, etc,
but we all have the opportunity to make the world a bit better tomorrow than
it is today.

But yeah, I'm ashamed of the bigotry, hatred, & narrow-mindedness that's
been tapped into and legitimised.

Jamie

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To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net
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Subject: Re: [kj] Trump

Thank you, Alex, for brilliantly summing up how I feel. Most victors give
those reconciliatory sort of acceptance speeches. I don't think they mean
much. The morally-bankrupt thundercunt's ego will be through the White House
roof. What did he have to do to lose? This election would have been more
dignified if the respective parties had put up an actual donkey and elephant
as candidates. I don't understand people anymore. Brexit was embarrassing
but this has... well, Trumped it. The ancient Chinese could never have
imagined times so "interesting". So many Killing Joke lyrics come to mind I
don't know which one to quote. We're fucked. Democracy: ya foired! On
11/9/16, Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>
> wrote: > I realize there are some sharp differences of opinion here on the
Gathering, > but as someone who fucking LIVES here, let me just say that I
am > incalculably ashamed to be an American today. > > Regardless of your
stance on policy -- not that T
 rump ever actually > discussed any tangible policies -- how anyone could
spend five minutes > listening to that fatuous bag of excitement attempt to
string coherent > sentence together and think: "yes, that man should hold
the most powerful > office in the so-called Free World" is FUCKING
STAGGERINGLY BEYOND MY > COMPREHENSION. > > If you think he's a champion for
the unsung ---> You are FUCKING FOOLING > yourselves. He DOES NOT CARE about
you, and that will doubtlessly become > obvious in short, catastrophic
order. > > > > If you think he's going to "shake things up" in Washington
-----> You are a > fucking idiot. Putting Trump in the White House is like
putting a lit > firecracker in a broken toaster. Is it going to shake things
up? You betcha. > Is it going to fix anything? NOPE. > > The message we are
sending to the world and to OUR OWN CHILDREN is that > racism, antisemitism,
proud anti-intellectualism, nativism, white > supremacist ideals, misogyny,
sexism, homophobia, the dim
 inishment of a > woman's right to choose, bullying, demagoguery, incitement
of violence, > avarice, wanton tax evasion, totalitarianism, climate change
denial and > creationism ARE ALL PERFECTLY OKAY. > > If you're an American
who voted for him here on the Gathering, you have > nothing but my undying
contempt, and may the god of your choice forgive you, > because I sure as
FUCK will not. > > I have many friends who are striving to make sense of
this and espousing > messages of solidarity, fortitude and hope. I realize
that's the correct > thing to do, and that in attempting same, I may find
solace and comfort in > the words and actions of the many like minds, but I
AM NOT THERE YET. > NOWHERE CLOSE. > > Being a dyed-in-the-wool native New
Yorker, I have never had a great amount > of faith in my fellow American,
because I am inherently a smug fucking snob, > and I am PERFECTLY OKAY WITH
THAT. But, again, DO NOT BE FOOLED!! Trump > doesn't give fuck about the
concerns of the American 
 heartland's working > families. They were exploited and manipulated by his
slavish appeals to the > lowest common denominator. > > It's simply
pathetic. I am sickened to the very core. > > FUCK YOU, America. > > -Alex
in NYC- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- >>
From: Christophe Barry >> Sent: Nov 9, 2016 11:57 AM >> To: "A list about
all things Killing Joke (the band!)" >> Subject: Re: [kj] Trump >> >>
F*ckin? ada >> >> De : Gathering <gathering-bounces at misera.net
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<mailto:gathering at misera.net> > >> Date : mercredi 9 novembre 2016 09:58 >>
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<mailto:jpwhkj at aol.com> > >> Objet : Re: [kj] Trump >> >> Germans could say
"Ach Du Schei?e" about that result. >> >> >> Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com
<mailto:rob.moss at gmx.com> > schrieb am 12:44 Mittwoch, 9.November 2016: >>
>> >> That's an "English" way of putting it!! >> >> Other words considered
could be >> >> Gosh >> Golly >> my Lord! >> Steady on old chap! >> >> >> >>
What a day Gatherers. What a day. >> >> >> On 9 Nov 2016, at 09:19,
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Well thanks for enlightening us Brendan. It's refreshing to hear a calm and
reasoned criticism of HC  - most of her critics come across as patronising
angry wee dicks.

On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 at 10:04 Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz
<mailto:bq at soundgardener.co.nz> > wrote:

So you?re all for the candidate who handed top level classified intel to
every govt / terrorist / hacker group in the world on a silver platter,
lied through her teeth about it, deleted emails after being subpoenaed, was
fed questions in advance by a complicit media (and to my knowledge was
never confronted with the fact by a single journalist; all attention going
to uber-victim Donna Brazille, who?s ?used to being persecuted, as a
Christian woman? ? poor thing, what the six-figure salary?), is married to
quite likely serial rapist Bill Clinton who (innocently, I?m sure) visited
Epstein?s pedo island 26 times (standing down Secret Service at least five
times), and FUCKING ON AND ON AND ON AND ON.

*Arkancide* clusters of people committing suicide by shooting themselves in
the back of the head twice?(and similar) surrounding the Clintons (small
calibre point-blank headshot being the signature assassin hit), crushing
the life out of themselves with barbells, on and on?couple this year I
believe.

*James Foster*

How long have you spent looking into this stuff?

The US mainstream media are a fucking joke; your email is symptomatic of
buying their bullshit hook line and sinker. The coverage of this election
was one of the most embarrassing, blatant demonstrations of shameless
bullshittery it?s been my misfortune to observe. Utterly fucking
intolerable.

All you MSM victims in the UK are STILL totally fucking clueless about
Brexit.

MSM victims in the US TOTALLY FUCKING CLUELESS about Trump, despite the
salutary lesson of Brexit.

For the love of God, *TURN THE FUCKING IDIOT BOX OFF*.

*From:* Gathering [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] *On Behalf Of *Alex
Smith
*Sent:* Thursday, 10 November 2016 10:31 a.m.
*To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net
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A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net
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*Subject:* Re: [kj] Trump

I realize there are some sharp differences of opinion here on the
Gathering, but as someone who fucking LIVES here, let me just say that I am
incalculably ashamed to be an American today.

Regardless of your stance on policy -- not that Trump ever actually
discussed any tangible policies -- how anyone could spend five minutes
listening to that fatuous bag of excitement attempt to string coherent
sentence together and think: "yes, that man should hold the most powerful
office in the so-called Free World" is FUCKING STAGGERINGLY BEYOND MY
COMPREHENSION.

If you think he's a champion for the unsung ---> You are FUCKING FOOLING
yourselves. He DOES NOT CARE about you, and that will doubtlessly become
obvious in short, catastrophic order.

If you think he's going to "shake things up" in Washington -----> You are a
fucking idiot. Putting Trump in the White House is like putting a lit
firecracker in a broken toaster. Is it going to shake things up? You
betcha. Is it going to fix anything? NOPE.

The message we are sending to the world and to OUR OWN CHILDREN is that
racism, antisemitism, proud anti-intellectualism, nativism, white
supremacist ideals, misogyny, sexism, homophobia, the diminishment of a
woman's right to choose, bullying, demagoguery, incitement of violence,
avarice, wanton tax evasion, totalitarianism, climate change denial and
creationism ARE ALL PERFECTLY OKAY.

If you're an American who voted for him here on the Gathering, you have
nothing but my undying contempt, and may the god of your choice forgive
you, because I sure as FUCK will not.

I have many friends who are striving to make sense of this and espousing
messages of solidarity, fortitude and hope. I realize that's the correct
thing to do, and that in attempting same, I may find solace and comfort in
the words and actions of the many like minds, but I AM NOT THERE YET.
NOWHERE CLOSE.

Being a dyed-in-the-wool native New Yorker, I have never had a great amount
of faith in my fellow American, because I am inherently a smug fucking
snob, and I am PERFECTLY OKAY WITH THAT. But, again, DO NOT BE FOOLED!!
Trump doesn't give fuck about the concerns of the American heartland's
working families. They were exploited and manipulated by his slavish
appeals to the lowest common denominator.

It's simply pathetic. I am sickened to the very core.

FUCK YOU, America.

-Alex in NYC-

-----Original Message-----
From: Christophe Barry
Sent: Nov 9, 2016 11:57 AM
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
Subject: Re: [kj] Trump

F*ckin? ada

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Germans could say "Ach Du Schei?e" about that result.

Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com <mailto:rob.moss at gmx.com> > schrieb am 12:44
Mittwoch, 9.November 2016:

That's an "English" way of putting it!!

Other words considered could be

Gosh

Golly

my Lord!

Steady on old chap!

What a day Gatherers. What a day.

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