[kj] Reissues

Fri Sep 2 10:52:13 EDT 2016

Thanks Santa. I had absolutely no idea that might happen if I mentioned it,
no idea at all ;-)

On 2 September 2016 at 14:45, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:

> I don't know where you would find a better version of that though.
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> Nope. No idea.
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> *Sent:* Friday, September 02, 2016 at 1:06 PM
> *From:* "jpwhkj--- via Gathering" <gathering at misera.net>
> *To:* gathering at misera.net
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> *Cc:* jpwhkj at aol.com
> *Subject:* Re: [kj] Reissues
> In theory, it would be great to hear previously unreleased tracks and/or
> genuinely different mixes.  In practice, I suspect that there aren't many
> of the former left (i.e. that we haven't heard), and they probably aren't
> actually that good!  So different mixes would probably be more
> interesting... early dub mixes of anything off the first two albums, for
> example.
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> That said, I quite like Hallucinations of a Cynic, and a better version
> would be very welcome.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com>
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net
> >
> Sent: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 11:52
> Subject: Re: [kj] Reissues
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> I tend to be the music industry's ideal customer/sucker as far as all this
> is concerned, but
> these would have to be fairly special to make me part with any cash. I
> would shell out to
> hear unreleased songs from the early KJ era, for sure, but there are other
> ways of sweetening
> the deal, for example a decent booklet - or even book - with interviews
> from the time and new interviews/comments with the
> band, essays, any unseen photos, decent posters etc etc. There are still
> some of Youth's early dub mixes that have never been
> released from the WTF...! era but like you say, the tapes are possibly
> lost for ever. But if it is just 'single edits' - ie
> the same bloody songs but a few seconds shorter - then no.
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> I would love to own a decent high quality version of  Hallucinations of a
> Cynic, rather than the tinny Youtube
> recording we are stuck with at present.
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> On 2 September 2016 at 11:44, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:
>>
>> At the moment, it's the releases up to Brighter that I know have been
>> considered.
>> Pandemonium and Democracy had some work but it's a different label and I
>> donlt know what is going on there  - or Extremities.
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>> I can tell you that there is not a huge amount in the vaults and tracking
>> down the two you mention Nick didn't happen.
>> Even asking the band for copies of tapes etc proved fruitless.
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>> These were requested for "listening" but never materialised
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>> Millenium Reaction Dub
>> Offering
>> Lanterns with Violin
>> Hallucinations of a cynic (vox slave)
>> Mathematics of chaos (slave)
>> Jana (vox slave)
>> Labyrinth (drum slave)
>> HillBilly Blues
>> Honey (agent Orange)
>> Guilt
>> Running Through The Maze
>> Another Cult Goes Down
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>> Never could find the Democracy album with teh loops that Geordie refered
>> to
>> the thing is, masters have been left all over the place because of there
>> being so many different labels and legal entities. No-One bloody knows!
>>
>> Some of the tracks Scott mentioned are not actually band collaboratrions
>> as well though they carry the KJ name
>> They may have been Jaz/Youth demos or things that Youth patched together
>> from bits n pieces which Geordie maight not have approved of and vetoed.
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>> As far as earlier releases go, there are just a few jams or alternate
>> mixes, single edits etc. Things like Youth singing on Wardance etc. Curious
>> but not vital,
>> KJ certainly were not terribly prolific.
>> Interestingly, Harlequin was considered for a single and a mix was done.
>> Also, around Fire Dances, they did alot of patching up. There are some
>> funny "edits" on that album and it's now apparant that they recorded new
>> bits to splice in here and there.
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>> There are some live tracks that have been fished out but it really all
>> depends on what the record companies consider viable financially!
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>> Requiem on a banjo is quite good though with Jaz on a kazoo...............
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>> *Sent:* Friday, September 02, 2016 at 6:44 AM
>> *From:* "Nick Scott" <npscott at blueyonder.co.uk>
>> *To:* "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <
>> gathering at misera.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [kj] Reissues
>> I certainly know there must be two hidden gems from Pandemonium era.
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>> Firstly Pandemonium itself, there is an extra verse on the Waxworth
>> Industries
>> mix that has to be lurking on master tape somewhere considering the remix
>> to be
>> incorporated back into the original, and then there is Another Cult Goes
>> Down.....unlike Snakedance from Pylon which has been released in its
>> original
>> format who has ever heard the original that was used for Youth's
>> Portobello dub
>> mix?
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>> > On 02 September 2016 at 00:43 scott thompson <
>> scott1310drummond at outlook.com>
>> > wrote:
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>> > Would be keen to hear Tailspin,industrial suicide
>> > tribe,Fucashima,Heartbreak,Childhood Prince,Pain and any other
>> unreleased
>> > songs.
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>> > and theres probably a whole lot of other stuff weve never heard
>> before,I think
>> > that would be a very profitable release.
>> >
>> > Could we have a clue as to what tracks they are ?
>> >
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>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: Gathering <gathering-bounces at misera.net> on behalf of Rob Moss
>> > <rob.moss at gmx.com>
>> > Sent: 01 September 2016 23:09:32
>> > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>> > Cc: jpwhkj at aol.com
>> > Subject: Re: [kj] Reissues
>> >
>> > Alternate takes and demos were all suggested. Stuff I never heard
>> before.
>> > Nothing tooooo stunning though.
>> >
>> > But it all depends on budgets I guess.......
>> >
>> > On 1 Sep 2016, at 22:08, jpwhkj--- via Gathering
>> > <gathering at misera.net<mailto:gathering at misera.net>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Intriguing.... I don't suppose you'll tell us anything about the nature
>> of the
>> > "extra bits"...?
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com<mailto:rob.moss at gmx.com>>
>> > To: gathering <gathering at misera.net<mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
>> > Sent: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 15:51
>> > Subject: [kj] Reissues
>> >
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>> > Seeing as folks are actually awake......
>> >
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>> > I have been helping a label who is interested in re-issues of the first
>> few
>> > albums
>> >
>> > There are a few extra bits that have been put forward to make the
>> reissues
>> > different so that they are no straight cash ins. What gets picked up
>> though, I
>> > could not say
>> >
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>> > There is talk of some special vinyl though which might be
>> > interesting..........
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