[kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 171, Issue 6

Anthony Arena anthonyarena68 at gmail.com
Sat Apr 8 13:39:30 EDT 2017


Ah.  OK.   I seemed to have gotten thru!    Disregard my "what is G7
question again"?.  *Thanks Jamie for explaining it!!!*   Yeah.   I want to
hear that G7.    I'll be on the hunt.

On those Ladbroke Lectures...was an orange book distributed called the
Holland Park Lectures?   I have a copy of this book.  I was not at the
event, but another Gatherer grabbed me a copy, shipped it to me as I live
in the states.


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> I was at the second day so didn't get to hear it. I did get to hear a
> rap by JC001 though, so... every cloud....
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> I still reckon it was Chapman.
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> On 4/5/17, jpwhkj--- via Gathering <gathering at misera.net> wrote:
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> > Back in the early 90's, after Extremities etc, KJ seemed to have gone
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> > separate ways & Jaz gave a couple of talks in Ladbroke Grove.  (Basically
> > the same talk on two evenings, I think.)  Anyway, aside from feeding us
> some
> > amazing Lebanese food, and getting a top violinist to play for us, and
> > playing some of his classical stuff on the piano, and of course talking a
> > whole load of Jaz-style lunacy, he also played us a brief bit of music
> from
> > his new band G7.  (At that point, G7 was what G8 is now, i.e. the Group
> of 7
> > biggest economies in the world.)
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> > Can't remember who else was in G7 - the drummer from the Mish, I think?
> > Anyway, to my young ears, it sounded pretty damn good.
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> > Unfortunately someone made off with the tape, and nothing has been heard
> > since.  I'd love to hear it, not least to see whether it's as good now
> as it
> > seemed at the time.
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> > Plenty of other Gatherers were there, on one or t'tother night, or
> both...
> > how do people remember G7?
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> > Jamie
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Anthony Arena <anthonyarena68 at gmail.com>
> > To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>
> > Sent: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 9:25
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> > ..What is the G 7 tape?    Thank you.    I'll go sip on my Glove Juice
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> > Now, if he was promising to dig out the G7 tape and dish up some
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> > The program will include Jaz conducting a Chamber Orchestra taking in
> pieces
> > from across his orchestral career from Songs from the Victorious City
> > through his Symphonic Rock era including a piece from the unreleased
> Nirvana
> > symphony through to a preview of KJ Symphonic and other original pieces.
> >
> > The evening will feature a very special guest violinist to be announced
> > shortly and will be interspersed with Jaz?s thoughts on the Universe and
> > Beyond and key themes from his upcoming book.
> >
> > This forms part of Jaz's ongoing new Symphonic Killing Joke project: The
> > Great Invocation, which you can also explore and sign up to when ordering
> > tickets.
> >
> > Tickets: Your PledgeMusic order receipt (either printed out or on your
> > smartphone) will serve as an e-ticket for this event. All prices include
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> From: "adrianwason at btinternet.com" <adrianwason at btinternet.com>
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> Apologies Paul, I sent my post to you not the Gathering.
> Patricia Morrisson was the other member or Gothopotomaus as Raven called
> her!.
> I really loved the tape and thought it was very different from anything
> else I've heard and that still stands to this day apart from some
> unpublished bands I've heard.
> Considering this is 25 years ago I remember it sounding very Eastern and
> the tracks were slow.
> I used to send out a yearly reminder on the gathering but have lost hope
> now...
> I was at the first day lecture and Jaz said that Geordie was turning up
> the next day..Did he?
> It was quite a memorable day as Jaz appeared to drink a large bottle of
> spirits during the talk and then went to make a dramatic exit and the door
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> From: "fatpotanga ." <fatpotanga at gmail.com>
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> I didn't know about that!
> Thanks for the question Antony and the answer my southern namesake.
> Paul - chifferty-chaff-chortle
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> On 5 Apr 2017 22:36, "jpwhkj--- via Gathering" <gathering at misera.net>
> wrote:
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> > Back in the early 90's, after Extremities etc, KJ seemed to have gone
> > their separate ways & Jaz gave a couple of talks in Ladbroke Grove.
> >  (Basically the same talk on two evenings, I think.)  Anyway, aside from
> > feeding us some amazing Lebanese food, and getting a top violinist to
> play
> > for us, and playing some of his classical stuff on the piano, and of
> course
> > talking a whole load of Jaz-style lunacy, he also played us a brief bit
> of
> > music from his new band G7.  (At that point, G7 was what G8 is now, i.e.
> > the Group of 7 biggest economies in the world.)
> >
> > Can't remember who else was in G7 - the drummer from the Mish, I think?
> > Anyway, to my young ears, it sounded pretty damn good.
> >
> > Unfortunately someone made off with the tape, and nothing has been heard
> > since.  I'd love to hear it, not least to see whether it's as good now as
> > it seemed at the time.
> >
> > Plenty of other Gatherers were there, on one or t'tother night, or
> both...
> > how do people remember G7?
> >
> > Jamie
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Anthony Arena <anthonyarena68 at gmail.com>
> > To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>
> > Sent: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 9:25
> > Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 171, Issue 1
> >
> > I've received the Gathering Digest over many different email addresses
> > over the years and wasn't sure how to reply. ..illiteracy i suppose...so
> i
> > always just read the archives from a far.  Anyways.   If im doing this
> > correctly. ..What is the G 7 tape?    Thank you.    I'll go sip on my
> Glove
> > Juice Box now.  Peace out...
> > On Apr 3, 2017 11:20 AM, <gathering-request at misera.net> wrote:
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> >    1. Fwd: An Evening With Jaz Coleman (Jari Pakarinen)
> >    2. Re: Fwd: An Evening With Jaz Coleman (jpwhkj at aol.com)
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> > Subject: [kj] Fwd: An Evening With Jaz Coleman
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> > From: Killing Joke <killingjoke at greenhousegroup.co.uk>
> > Date: 2017-04-03 1:05 GMT+03:00
> > Subject: An Evening With Jaz Coleman
> > To: jari.pakarinen at iki.fi
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> > <http://greenhousegroup.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=fe
> > c9ade97ed5c7c970b140955&id=914a0d7dd6&e=278223b313>
> > Killing Joke Present An Evening with
> > Jaz Coleman
> >
> > Date: 15th July 2017
> > Venue: Cecil Sharpe House, London
> > Tickets
> > <http://greenhousegroup.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=fe
> > c9ade97ed5c7c970b140955&id=40aff05263&e=278223b313>
> >
> >
> > The program will include Jaz conducting a Chamber Orchestra taking in
> > pieces from across his orchestral career from Songs from the Victorious
> > City through his Symphonic Rock era including a piece from the unreleased
> > Nirvana symphony through to a preview of KJ Symphonic and other original
> > pieces.
> >
> > The evening will feature a very special guest violinist to be announced
> > shortly and will be interspersed with Jaz?s thoughts on the Universe and
> > Beyond and key themes from his upcoming book.
> >
> > This forms part of Jaz's ongoing new Symphonic Killing Joke project: The
> > Great Invocation, which you can also explore and sign up to when ordering
> > tickets.
> >
> > Tickets
> > <http://greenhousegroup.us1.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=f
> > ec9ade97ed5c7c970b140955&id=9c9dc23c76&e=278223b313>:
> > Your PledgeMusic order receipt (either printed out or on your smartphone)
> > will serve as an e-ticket for this event. All prices include 10% booking
> > fee. No refunds are provided on tickets.
> >
> > Alternatively, you can buy tickets directly from the venue here
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> > c9ade97ed5c7c970b140955&id=5312eff8db&e=278223b313>
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> > Some of it sounds amazing (Songs from the Victorious City, anyway) but an
> > awful lot of it sounds like dross.  Quite expensive dross, as well...
> >
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> > Now, if he was promising to dig out the G7 tape and dish up some
> top-notch
> > Lebanese food, I'd be there like a shot.
> >
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> > Jamie
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> > From: Jari Pakarinen <jari.t.pakarinen at gmail.com>
> > To: Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
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> > Date: 2017-04-03 1:05 GMT+03:00
> > Subject: An Evening With Jaz Coleman
> > To: jari.pakarinen at iki.fi
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> > Killing Joke Present
> > An Evening with
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> > Date: 15th July 2017
> > Venue: Cecil Sharpe House, London
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> > The program will include Jaz conducting a Chamber Orchestra taking in
> > pieces from across his orchestral career from Songs from the Victorious
> > City through his Symphonic Rock era including a piece from the unreleased
> > Nirvana symphony through to a preview of KJ Symphonic and other original
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> > The evening will feature a very special guest violinist to be announced
> > shortly and will be interspersed with Jaz?s thoughts on the Universe and
> > Beyond and key themes from his upcoming book.
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> > This forms part of Jaz's ongoing new Symphonic Killing Joke project: The
> > Great Invocation, which you can also explore and sign up to when ordering
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> > Tickets: Your PledgeMusic order receipt (either printed out or on your
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> > 10% booking fee. No refunds are provided on tickets.
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> > Alternatively, you can buy tickets directly from the venue here.
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