[kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue 22

kevin patrickvieira at msn.com
Sat Jan 28 10:01:42 EST 2017










http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador-ttip-dead/
[http://media.breitbart.com/media/2016/01/ted-malloch-e1453576760739.jpg]<http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador-ttip-dead/>

Trump's Prospective EU Ambassador: TTIP is Dead<http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador-ttip-dead/>
www.breitbart.com
The economist and academic hotly tipped to be President Trump's ambassador to the European Union told the Breitbart News Daily Show that "TTIP is a non starter" and won't progress under the Trump administration.




> On Jan 28, 2017, at 9:02 AM, kevin <patrickvieira at msn.com> wrote:
>
> That`s why I made a differentation and said `presumably dying.`
> So lets wait and see what happens with the TIPP.
> As for talking crap. Well on the day that I walk past a TV and SKY news are
> reporting on `what this spraying programme is` and `why the public shouldn`t be alarmed` I`ll get
> back to you on that.
>
> Alex- me typing  3 days worth of wall taxt isn`t going to mak any difference to what you think.
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 20:27:26 -0000
> From: "Mike Cooper" <mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>>
> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'"
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> Aren't TTIP and TPP completely different things?  I thought the former was
> concerning the deals for corporations and government which Trump The C.
> would almost certainly support and the latter a trade deal with pacific
> nations which he has ended.
>
>
>
> Oh and by the way Kev you're talking crap.
>
>
>
> From: Gathering [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>] On Behalf Of kevin
> Sent: 27 January 2017 06:57
> To: gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
> Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue 15
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>
> I`m happy Trump got in. Fucking overjoyed actually.
>
> Seem to recall there was a post on here around August from someone in the UK
> I think
>
> declaring he didn`t have a prayer. Mmmm.
>
>
>
> I think Jaz mentioned he was more relieved that Hillary didn`t get in but he
> seems to change his views like the weather on these things.
>
> He seemed to be really revelling in teasing the UK audiences about `How is
> your Brexit going?` etc but I also heard he was `50/50` on that
>
> (strange for someone who seems to jump on people for being `fence sitters.`)
>
> Jaz ws very outspoken on TIPP so now Trump has killed TPP I`m sure he is
> revelling in that presumably dying..
>
>
>
> I don`t think BPF likes him but can`t speak for others. He put up a John
> Pilger piece which was very anti Trump during the election..
>
> Geordie no idea but a big supporter of EU so I hear.
>
>
>
> Youth I assume is wearing a Pink Pussy hat and waving a placard with a
> crying polar bear on it or something...
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:25:03 -0500
> From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>
> <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>> >
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>         <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net> <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>> >
> Subject: [kj] Killing Joke in the Age of Trump
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> At the risk of possibly re-igniting the surreally hostile thread I
> participated in back in November (wherein certain member of our estimable
> collective got a bit combative on the subject of the election to the point
> where I actually left the fold for a bit), I?m wondering how everyone?s
> feeling only six days into the era of Trump as President.
>
> My feelings haven?t changed. I still believe it was an incalculable mistake.
>
> But what about you?
>
> More relevant to this list ? where are Messrs. Coleman, Walker, Glover and
> Ferguson? I know Youth has weighed in periodically on FB about Trump (he,
> unsurprisingly, does not appear to be a acolyte), but I?m positively gagging
> to hear what Jaz and BPF have to say about him.
>
> Anyway, let?s hear your thoughts. I promise not to swan off like jilted prom
> queen. I?m just wondering what this largely Euro-centric (right?) group of
> folks have to say at this point.
>
> The mood here in NYC, suffice to say, is not positive.
>
> Cheers, you fuckers.
>
> Alex in NYC.
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> From: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk <mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>>
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> You are correct Mike. The TIPP involves only the US and the EU. It's a separate beast entirely.
>
> Jim.
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> On Fri, 27/1/17, Mike Cooper <mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue 15
>  To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
>  Date: Friday, 27 January, 2017, 20:27
>
>
>  Aren?t TTIP and TPP completely
>  different things?? I thought the former was concerning the
>  deals for corporations and government which Trump The C?
>  would almost certainly support and the latter a trade deal
>  with pacific nations which he has ended. ?Oh and by the way Kev you?re
>  talking crap. ?From: Gathering
>  [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>] On Behalf Of
>  kevin
>  Sent: 27 January 2017
>  06:57
>  To: gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
>  Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol
>  168, Issue 15 ?I`m happy Trump got in. Fucking
>  overjoyed actually.Seem to recall there was a post on
>  here around August from someone in the UK I think
>  declaring he didn`t have a prayer.
>  Mmmm.
>  ?I think Jaz
>  mentioned he was more relieved that Hillary didn`t get in
>  but he seems to change his views like the weather on these
>  things.He seemed to be really revelling
>  in teasing the UK audiences about `How is your Brexit
>  going?` etc but I also heard he was `50/50` on
>  that(strange for someone who seems to
>  jump on people for being `fence sitters.`)Jaz
>  ws very outspoken on TIPP so now Trump has killed TPP I`m
>  sure he is revelling in that presumably dying.. ?I don`t think BPF likes him but
>  can`t speak for others. He put up a John Pilger piece which
>  was very anti Trump during the election..Geordie no idea but a big
>  supporter of EU so I hear. ?Youth I assume is wearing a Pink
>  Pussy hat and waving a placard with a crying polar bear on
>  it or something... ?
>  ?
>
>  Message: 3
>  Date: Thu, 26 Jan
>  2017 20:25:03 -0500
>  From: Alexander Smith
>  <vassifer at earthlink.net <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>>
>  To: "A list about all things Killing Joke
>  (the band!)"
>  ??????? <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
>  Subject: [kj] Killing Joke in the Age of
>  Trump
>  Message-ID: <0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net <mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net>>
>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
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>  At the risk of possibly
>  re-igniting the surreally hostile thread I participated in
>  back in November (wherein certain member of our estimable
>  collective got a bit combative on the subject of the
>  election to the point where I actually left the fold for a
>  bit), I?m wondering how everyone?s feeling only six days
>  into the era of Trump as President.
>
>  My feelings haven?t changed. I still believe it
>  was an incalculable mistake.
>
>  But what about you?
>
>  More relevant to this list ? where are Messrs.
>  Coleman, Walker, Glover and Ferguson? I know Youth has
>  weighed in periodically on FB about Trump (he,
>  unsurprisingly, does not appear to be a acolyte), but I?m
>  positively gagging to hear what Jaz and BPF have to say
>  about him.
>
>  Anyway, let?s
>  hear your thoughts. I promise not to swan off like jilted
>  prom queen. I?m just wondering what this largely
>  Euro-centric (right?) group of folks have to say at this
>  point.
>
>  The mood here in
>  NYC, suffice to say, is not positive.
>
>  Cheers, you fuckers.
>
>  Alex in NYC.
>
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 21:43:47 +0000
> From: Richard Hopkins <ratclimber at gmail.com <mailto:ratclimber at gmail.com>>
> To: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk <mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>>, "A list about all things
>         Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
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> You guys and you're alternative facts....Sad!
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> (?)
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> On 27 January 2017, at 21:01, Jim Harper via Gathering <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>> wrote:
>
> You are correct Mike. The TIPP involves only the US and the EU. It's a separate beast entirely.
>
> Jim.
>
> On Fri, 27/1/17, Mike Cooper <mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue 15
>  To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
>  Date: Friday, 27 January, 2017, 20:27
>
>
>  Aren?t TTIP and TPP completely
>  different things?? I thought the former was concerning the
>  deals for corporations and government which Trump The C?
>  would almost certainly support and the latter a trade deal
>  with pacific nations which he has ended. ?Oh and by the way Kev you?re
>  talking crap. ?From: Gathering
>  [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>] On Behalf Of
>  kevin
>  Sent: 27 January 2017
>  06:57
>  To: gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
>  Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol
>  168, Issue 15 ?I`m happy Trump got in. Fucking
>  overjoyed actually.Seem to recall there was a post on
>  here around August from someone in the UK I think
>  declaring he didn`t have a prayer.
>  Mmmm.
>  ?I think Jaz
>  mentioned he was more relieved that Hillary didn`t get in
>  but he seems to change his views like the weather on these
>  things.He seemed to be really revelling
>  in teasing the UK audiences about `How is your Brexit
>  going?` etc but I also heard he was `50/50` on
>  that(strange for someone who seems to
>  jump on people for being `fence sitters.`)Jaz
>  ws very outspoken on TIPP so now Trump has killed TPP I`m
>  sure he is revelling in that presumably dying.. ?I don`t think BPF likes him but
>  can`t speak for others. He put up a John Pilger piece which
>  was very anti Trump during the election..Geordie no idea but a big
>  supporter of EU so I hear. ?Youth I assume is wearing a Pink
>  Pussy hat and waving a placard with a crying polar bear on
>  it or something... ?
>  ?
>
>  Message: 3
>  Date: Thu, 26 Jan
>  2017 20:25:03 -0500
>  From: Alexander Smith
>  <vassifer at earthlink.net <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>>
>  To: "A list about all things Killing Joke
>  (the band!)"
>  ??????? <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
>  Subject: [kj] Killing Joke in the Age of
>  Trump
>  Message-ID: <0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net <mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net>>
>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
>  At the risk of possibly
>  re-igniting the surreally hostile thread I participated in
>  back in November (wherein certain member of our estimable
>  collective got a bit combative on the subject of the
>  election to the point where I actually left the fold for a
>  bit), I?m wondering how everyone?s feeling only six days
>  into the era of Trump as President.
>
>  My feelings haven?t changed. I still believe it
>  was an incalculable mistake.
>
>  But what about you?
>
>  More relevant to this list ? where are Messrs.
>  Coleman, Walker, Glover and Ferguson? I know Youth has
>  weighed in periodically on FB about Trump (he,
>  unsurprisingly, does not appear to be a acolyte), but I?m
>  positively gagging to hear what Jaz and BPF have to say
>  about him.
>
>  Anyway, let?s
>  hear your thoughts. I promise not to swan off like jilted
>  prom queen. I?m just wondering what this largely
>  Euro-centric (right?) group of folks have to say at this
>  point.
>
>  The mood here in
>  NYC, suffice to say, is not positive.
>
>  Cheers, you fuckers.
>
>  Alex in NYC.
>
>
>
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